Snare noise

[AdamOz]

Hey.

I purchased EZDrummer 3 yesterday and I just noticed snares have a lot of white noise in both top and bottom channels, can someone explain to me if there is something I don’t get here, am I doing something wrong? Please enlighten me because I find it totally unacceptable.

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)

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[Mick Avoidant]

Does it happen with every snare?

Are you running ezdrummer in a DAW or standalone?

[AdamOz]

Hello Mick, yes I tried in the bright, main and tight room it’s all the same, I’m using it in Logic. I didn’t notice it at first using my monitors but with the headphones it is very strong.

Is it just me or is it everywhere?

btw I tried the standalone it’s the same and buffer too

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)

• This post was modified 2 years ago by AdamOz.

[John]

Hi,

it depends on which preset you are using but from what I can see, the noise is about -70dB within the 2 second tail and wouldn’t think that’s strange. It also depends if you are isolating a hit like this and apply further dyn/eq processing after or if you are hearing noise in context.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[AdamOz]

Hello John thanks for your reply. The file I sent was without any effect added just straight EZD3, this is too much noise to use in a mix in my opinion. You won’t notice it on high velocity hits, sure, but on any subtle hit (which are the ones I like) it completely ruins the sound. The noise is always at the same volume and so it becomes proeminent at low velocities (on velocity 1 there is  actually more noise than snare), could you please fix this? That would be really great and appreciated.

[John]

Please state the exact combo of Preset and Snare you are using or better yet, zip archive a project showcasing this and attach to a post here.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[AdamOz]

here you go

too many distorted snare hits, not enough clean ones so you have to use low velocity for a clean snare sound. but then you get a lot of noise

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6

[John]

Hi, could you please zip archive the project before attaching it? The regular .ezd3p file can’t be uploaded.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[AdamOz]

sure

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Considering that you are using the Studio Basic preset, your snare, which is set at +12db, is overdriving everything. That would explain why you are getting a distorted drum sound at velocities higher than 34. Your mp3 is more of an indication that there’s a compressor that is releasing as the snare is decaying. There’s no reason for the snare to be up that high, even if you are trying to demonstrate something. The volume needs to be lowered considerably, and that will inherently take care of whatever noise issues you feel concerned about.

With the snare level at 0db and a hit velocity of 94, the hit is nice and clean with a proper decay and the noise floor is reduced greatly.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[AdamOz]

with a hit velocity of 94 the snare tone is smashed, I find every velocity up of 80 or so unusable for my taste. Of course the noise is proportionally lower on higher velocities there’s no debating that. Sorry I’m probably being picky, lol

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)

[Bear-Faced Cow]

With the volume of your snare at +12db, everything is smashed. You also need to remember that you are also feeding a compressor in that preset.

You need to turn it down and listen to these things in context of the music.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[AdamOz]

What do you mean “i’m feeding a compressor”? I think my mistake was muting overheads for the snare it does get too quiet when doing so, I won’t get fooled again, thanks for your help guys

[John]

To clarify what Jord means:

as you see in this screen shot, you have raised the volume of the Snare Instrument with 12dB, not the Mixer channel.
As this is EZdrummer 3, there is stuff going on under the hood and Jord is right, there is a multi-fx processor on the Snare Top in the Mixer and when you raise the volume on the Instrument, you deliver a much hotter signal than intended into this processing.
Also, raising the Instrument volume means that all channels that have bleed from the Snare gets louder.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

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