Smoothing Velocity Curve in MIDI In/E-Drums Mode

[Andrew Payne]

Hi,

I know how to use Soft curve to smooth out a velocity curve (3.4.6 in manual) but cannot see how to do this in MIDI In/E-Drums mode (9.3.7). I use an electronic kit to trigger SD3 and want to smooth out the velocity curve I have tailored for my snare drum(s).

Is there a way I can do this. There is nothing in manual under 9.3.7 “Edit MIDI Mapping and Response, Velocity Tab” to show how to do this.

Also I was wondering if there is any way to make property box changes so only certain velocity levels in articulations are affected. I have a great snare sound however at 127 velocity it becomes too harsh (too much attack and no sustain – but output volume is OK) yet at all other velocities it is great. If I adjust attack (either through transient effect, EQ or envelope/offset) then it affects sounds at all velocities. Should I be using velocity gate or curve and if so how do I still maintain the loudness of the snare at velocity 127 without the “harshness” ? I am still learning how to programme sounds but enjoying the process and how great the sounds are in SD3.

Thanks,

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Cubase Pro 13, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat.

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

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The simplest way I’ve found is to save a curved preset and then load it in the MIDI/E-drum. It seems to hold the curve.

But yes, it would be more helpful to have that ability throughout… hopeful for implementation in a future revision.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

• This post was modified 5 years ago by Bear-Faced Cow.

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[Andrew Payne]

Thanks Jord,

 

That works perfectly. cheers, Andrew

Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Cubase Pro 13, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat.

[Andrew Payne]

Hello Jord,

I have been doing this as you suggested and have saved a curved preset on the snare channel, however each time I exit and come back in, the preset disappears in the MIDI In/E-Drums section and it goes back to the “straight” velocity curve. I have to reload the “curved” preset again each time.

 

Is there any way that the “curved” preset can be saved in the MIDI In/E-Drums ?

 

thanks, Andrew

 

 

 

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Cubase Pro 13, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat.

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Did you save your MIDI/E-Drum settings?

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Andrew Payne]

Yeah I saved as a MIDI In/E-Drums preset and also saved as a project but it still does not keep the smooth curve and I have to reload the saved (smooth) velocity curve preset each time. This still “works” but not an ideal outcome and a bit frustrating.

 

It doesnt look like the MIDI In/E-Drums is saving this ? thanks, Andrew

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Cubase Pro 13, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat.

[Andrew Payne]

I did a “workaround” in the MIDI In/E-Drums settings and actually created a velocity “curve” with straight lines but with lots of points so it “smooths” it out – although not quite as good as smooth curve. This curve does then stay saved in my MIDI In/E-Drums setttings and pretty much gives me what I am after – I like soft and smooth ghost notes notes for low velocities and then a steep gradient to the higher velocity louder hits on my snare.

 

Can anyone from Toontrack condirm if this is the only way to achieve this or is there something else I am doing incorrectly. cheers, Andrew

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Cubase Pro 13, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat.

[monospace]

Andrew Payne wrote:

Also I was wondering if there is any way to make property box changes so only certain velocity levels in articulations are affected.

In Midi in/Edrums setting you can just edit the velocity curve for the currently selected articulation, but the property box on the Drum tab seems to affect the entire selected instrument. I agree that it would be great if this was more consistent.

E-drummer. eDrumIn trigger interface with various Roland trigger pads. MacBook Pro (mid-2015); MacOS High Sierra; Logic Pro X 10.4.8. Superior Drummer user since 2009.

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