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Hi there,
I am just getting into brush swirls and love the sound!
I own EZdrummer 3, Superior Drummer 3, and many EZX and SDX, among them EZX Jazz, SDX Decades, SDX Custom & Vintage, SDX Roots (both), SDX Jazz Sessions. All my Toontrack products are up to date according to the Product Manager.
Here is the bug I am experiencing:
Some swirl grooves do not trigger the correct articulations in some EZX / SDX:
SDX Custom & Vintage:
Working: –
Not working: Swirl grooves from EZX Jazz, Superior Drummer 3, SDX Decades SDX Roots, SDX The Jazz Sessions
SDX The Jazz Session
Working: Swirl grooves from Superior Drummer 3, SDX Decades, SDX Roots, SDX The Jazz Sessions
Not working: Swirl grooves from EZX Jazz
SDX Decades:
Working: Swirl grooves from Superior Drummer 3, SDX Decades, SDX Roots, SDX The Jazz Sessions
Not working: Swirl grooves from EZX Jazz
SDX Roots:
Working: Swirl grooves from Superior Drummer 3, SDX Decades, SDX Roots, SDX The Jazz Sessions
Not working: Swirl grooves from EZX Jazz
Superior Drummer 3:
Working: Swirl grooves from Superior Drummer 3, SDX Decades, SDX Roots, SDX The Jazz Sessions
Not working: Swirl grooves from EZX Jazz
EZX Jazz:
Working: Swirl grooves from EZX Jazz, Superior Drummer 3, SDX Decades, SDX Roots, SDX The Jazz Sessions
Not working: –
I checked the MIDI in the Grid Editor and the grooves that are not working are simply triggering the wrong articulations.
Is this a known bug? Will it be fixed with the next updates?
I am thinking about buying SDX Legacy Of Rock, EZX Big Band and EZX Classic Rock and obviously I am also wondering about the MIDI swirl compatibility with these expansions …
Thanky ou for your help,
Andi
Different Toontrack Products have different midi mapping.
A different example would be is if a product had 10 cymbals. The midi that comes with this product would incorporate all 10 cymbals. But if you play the midi from this product in a different EZX/SDX that only has 4 cymbals, you will start triggering things besides cymbals.
There’s only 0-127 midi articulations. When these products get big, there’s no way to assign all articulations consistently across products. You only get consistency when it comes to the core instruments of the kit like kick, snare (not brushes), hats, 4-5 toms, 4 cymbals and a ride as a rough example.
It’s working as intended. You need to fix this yourself to combine brush info from one product to the other. If you’re getting into brushes and Toontrack, more general info here. I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong.
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Shootie is bang on. Jazz Session is a prime example that was discussed in a previous thread. Damien expounded on the fact that this SDX has a bunch of new articulations that were being shown off in place of the brush articulations. You would have to create new mappings if you wanted to use brush articulations.
jord
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