monospaceI am playing edrums with a second snare drum, a piccolo mounted to the left of my hihat. So I bring in the instrument as an X-Drum on the left side of my Drum tab, but I don’t see a way to access the bleeds (snare buzz) for the bottom mic in the mixer, the way I can for my main snare. By default, the X-Drum Bottom Snare mic doesn’t contain any bleed signals, and creating a new mic channel makes no difference.I know those sounds exist, but there doesn’t seem to be a way to access them anywhere but the main snare drum mics. Is this even possible?
E-drummer. eDrumIn trigger interface with various Roland trigger pads. MacBook Pro (mid-2015); MacOS High Sierra; Logic Pro X 10.4.8. Superior Drummer user since 2009.
I am playing edrums with a second snare drum, a piccolo mounted to the left of my hihat. So I bring in the instrument as an X-Drum on the left side of my Drum tab, but I don’t see a way to access the bleeds (snare buzz) for the bottom mic in the mixer, the way I can for my main snare. By default, the X-Drum Bottom Snare mic doesn’t contain any bleed signals, and creating a new mic channel makes no difference.I know those sounds exist, but there doesn’t seem to be a way to access them anywhere but the main snare drum mics. Is this even possible?
E-drummer. eDrumIn trigger interface with various Roland trigger pads. MacBook Pro (mid-2015); MacOS High Sierra; Logic Pro X 10.4.8. Superior Drummer user since 2009.
MintberryCrunchHe has never (and you can easily verify this) offered any usable advice to anyone for free.
That’s again an outrageous lie! Prove it (it’s so easy!) or everybody knows you’re spreading lies.
if he really cared about the electronic drumming community he would be offering that advice for free
LOL! Ridiculous! Wake up, you’re propably dreaming.
All of the “solutions” he offers are simple MIDI hacks that have been known forever.
What? You know absolutely NOTHING about my work. So this claim is a super ridiculous lie.
especially since he does not own any of the products in question.
What? What do I not own???
Kai_20The thing is he does constantly give tips, even what he uses, for his solutions, since there are quite a lot daws and sample players it would be a pain in the ass to give each individual a free custom solution…
He is also able and has the nerves (I witnessed it) to offer this for various daws, I never would lern them all myself, annoying task….why not pay him for this?
so his business model does make sense, even things like ggd, which are certainly not as cool playable, if you like how they sound it does make sense to contact him, since the manufacturer failed…..
Sorry I am no fanboy and do not see any mean behavior or greed and simply cannot understand your anger…..he does not deserve your ”treatment”.,.that is all I have to say.
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Thanked by: MintberryCrunchmonospaceProve it man!
No, buddy, YOU prove it. If you had any real solutions, you would have posted them already. But all you do is sell stupid MIDI tricks and you have the same guy (always the same guy, although I suspect it’s really you) playing the “satisfied customer” and defending you on every forum. Quite the con job you got there buddy.
If you were in Germany or Europe my lawyer would have sent you a cease-and-desist letter regarding your spreading of these outrageous lies.
You’re threatening me with a fucking lawyer? Yeah, that’s exactly the kind of response I would expect from an honest guy who wants to help the community. You’re pathetic.
E-drummer. eDrumIn trigger interface with various Roland trigger pads. MacBook Pro (mid-2015); MacOS High Sierra; Logic Pro X 10.4.8. Superior Drummer user since 2009.
monospaceSorry I am no fanboy
Dude! You literally have two posts on this entire forum and they’re in this thread. I bet you signed up today just to defend your buddy.
Enough with the stupid charade already.
E-drummer. eDrumIn trigger interface with various Roland trigger pads. MacBook Pro (mid-2015); MacOS High Sierra; Logic Pro X 10.4.8. Superior Drummer user since 2009.
MintberryCrunchNo, buddy, YOU prove it.
You can read yourself? Just look for my about 500 posts on Vdrums forum – there you and anyone else can find it (and this is just one forum as an example -> soooo many tips on the FB groups). And don’t dare to repeat your defamatory lie that there is no free and useful help in these 500 posts BUDDY!
Yea, the other guy is me. LOL.
ScottOk guys. Let’s stop all of this. The thread isn’t providing anything useful anymore.
Scott Sibley - Toontrack
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mprinzHi guys, I got here because:
Somehow, this morning, on the road to work, I was thinking like: Hm, if the drum kit is set up like in the Toontrack promotions the bleed recording has to contain also the responses from the other kitparts like tom humming in case of hitting the kick or snare buzz when hitting the toms or bass drum. So to be perfect, there need to be bleed mic samples for each kit setup, which is of rediculous.
You got it? Of course the bleed IS x-talk from one instrument to anothers intrument mic, but let’s say the bass drum kick will not only create a bass drum kick sound through the tom mic, but it will also let the tom response to the fat sound of the kick. And that sound will depend on the tom in the setup.
So my guess was, without further testing, right now, that the other kit parts were mechanically muted during recording of the samples and its just like, how sounds the sampled kit part through an other mic on the kit. Which is fine, but for a moment, I was like… wait…heeww? Oh, hmm, ahhh, ok…
I tested with the SD3 core library. I found out, they recorded the bleed e.g. for the bass drum 14×26 Ludwig Classic 3ply with “only” a certain set. With muted bass drum channel, you can hear on the tom channel, the bass drum together with the excited toms, even though there are no tom instruments set up. I mean that’s completely ok, but that was the thing that hurts my brain when first I tried to get into the bleeding settings. Like… That’s not it! How to dial in the exited drum parts like ringing toms, wires etc. I mean maybe there is a difference between bleeding and x-talk? Anyway, these libraries are really detailed enough. But that is what happens, when a physicist starts to think. Now I hurt your brains?
So, with regard to this threads topic: The snare drums bleed of the bottom mic is not dependend to the snare, but to the kick drum, or floortom or whatever!
And there is “only” one bleed recording for each kit part, and for sure “only” in combination with a certain snare. The same is for the OH and ambience mics.
Of course the primary sounds are changed, but only combination with one kit setup.
Hi, Toontrack guys, I am right?
So, as a guess: If you want “a” snare bottom wire bleed sound you may add the correspondig bass drum from the snare library and mute the primary sound or if you want “the” snare wire sound, one could trigger also the side snare when trigger the kick and just use a subtle snare bottom signal.
I would really appriciate a short comment from the Toontrack support.
Greetings
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