kirkpetReally hoping SD4 is coming this year. Feels long over due. I’d love to see the grid features that currently exists in EZdrummer 3 incorporated into the superior line. Also, third party plugin availability in the mixer!!
Really hoping SD4 is coming this year. Feels long over due. I’d love to see the grid features that currently exists in EZdrummer 3 incorporated into the superior line. Also, third party plugin availability in the mixer!!
kentishmanSomeone correct me if I’m wrong, but if you bounce out the tracks pre-send and split the channels, it creates mono files. I know when I’ve done that for clients who want the works, it creates smaller file sizes than a post-send stereo bounce.
JohnI wouldn’t mind seeing an option to make mic signals mono like in the real world where it’s only condensers which are recorded as stereo. Every producer wants drum stems in mono so I have to convert them in a DAW before sending. It would be nice to record in mono at source – or maybe I’ve missed a setting in the interface!!!!
Hi,
if you wish to have your SD3 Song Track Bounced per microphone, like if it was a real recording, you choose ‘Bounce Microphone Channels’ on the Advanced tab.
This gives you pre-mixer audio files per Microphone, plus you got a few extra options there.
BR,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
thedrumdoctorI wouldn’t mind seeing an option to make mic signals mono like in the real world where it’s only condensers which are recorded as stereo. Every producer wants drum stems in mono so I have to convert them in a DAW before sending. It would be nice to record in mono at source – or maybe I’ve missed a setting in the interface!!!!
Hi,
if you wish to have your SD3 Song Track Bounced per microphone, like if it was a real recording, you choose ‘Bounce Microphone Channels’ on the Advanced tab.
This gives you pre-mixer audio files per Microphone, plus you got a few extra options there.BR,
John
Well I didn’t know that!
Thanks for the info. I will delve into the Advanced area…
thedrumdoctor
dziganyWhat additional features does EZ drummer have over SD?
The one I really miss is “Replace MIDI”.
metrosuperstarMy hope is for SD4 to be the solution for eDrummers more than drum programming. The UI could be so much improved for those who want to use this while sitting behind the drums. Like a quick way to navigate presets that don’t require grabbing your mouse and trying to click a tiny arrow icon every time we want a new kit loaded. Being able to assign certain presets to key commands or MIDI CC messages. And making the SD drums “smarter” so that we can reorganize the graphics to match our own physical setup, and then not have to reassign MIDI note numbers to the physical pad/cymbal every time we change kit. Like if I want my physical splash to remain a splash, then have it remain a splash no matter what kit I change to. Having to re-assign every time is a nightmare. I think SD should be the line for eDrummers, and EZ should be the go-to for programming.
RAY PRIMIf they can just improve the cymbals and Hi Hats. That’s the only thing that keeps it from sounding completely real to me. I know it’s a difficult task but that’s the last frontier in Virtual drums to tackle.
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KenWhat i would like to see is, the ability to drag the drum and have the panning track where you position that drum with respect to center. Matching reality in the studio with respect to actual kit piece positioning, and having the ability to have superior drummer automatically pan each instrument that you can now drag around the screen and match your physical layout would be a great asset. The other thing that has always been a big bone of contention for me audience position versus sitting on the drum throne, yes there is a function to reverse the audio output but it is not very evident as to what mode you are in.
The making of symbols and hi-hat sounds more realistic is of course data sensitive, so anyone complaining about running out of SSD space go buy a new one.
Cheers Ken
SD 3.3.6 on Windows 10 | Cubase 11 Pro DAW
expansions : N.Y.Avitar | Latin percussion
Yamaha multi 12 | DTX 450k | Trigger IO (x2)
Super stupid fast computer with i9 and 18 speed double clutch gearbox
5. Audio interfaces.
BlueMistralI’m more bothered about getting rim shots when head and rim are hit together and rim only when just hitting the rim. Also I would like samples of shallow rim shots (they are higher pitch ) so full rim shot with rim and centre and shallow with rim and edge. PS on all toms. Basically anything that allows a drummer playing edrums get a more natural and instinctive feel.
My DWe kit can trigger rim and rimshots separately so it’s not an SD3 issue but more a config issue with your module. I assume you are using a roland module, if you’re using a digital snare, the positional sensing for the rim is set to off by default, set it to on and you will get rims and rimshots separately
Kurt FI’m more bothered about getting rim shots when head and rim are hit together and rim only when just hitting the rim. Also I would like samples of shallow rim shots (they are higher pitch ) so full rim shot with rim and centre and shallow with rim and edge. PS on all toms. Basically anything that allows a drummer playing edrums get a more natural and instinctive feel.
I have a TD50x with SD3 and have Snare and all 4 Toms setup for correct handling of rimshots so that:
Solution is here:
cheers
Mark KingI have all that too but that is not what I said if you read it correctly.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
thedrumdoctorIf they can just improve the cymbals and Hi Hats. That’s the only thing that keeps it from sounding completely real to me. I know it’s a difficult task but that’s the last frontier in Virtual drums to tackle.
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.4.0
Operating system: macOS Sonoma (14)
Seconded!
I use the eDRUMin interface with an optical hi-hat controller and the CC information going to SD3 is the full 0-127 in its purest form. No interference by a third party module deciding how they think the CC information should be interpreted on its way to the VST. The transitions between open/closed really show their limitations when the eDRUMin is passing over the information. It’s almost like there are ‘gaps’ from the SD3 side of things. Sure, I’ve fiddled about with the articulation slider to get the most realism, messed with the ‘smoothness’ control and increased the capacity of the voices, but it’s still lacking something. I mean it’s good – very good – and better than anything I’ve heard from a modern module, but there’s still room for improvement.
In fact, I had to use one of those Roland VAD kits with a TD27 and a VH10 a couple of weeks ago using Roland’s own internal sounds and it was quite awful, compared to my own A2E conversion. It seems as you say, cymbals are the final frontier.
thedrumdoctor
cropotkinI’d like to be able to set a precise pan value in the mixer. It seems bizarre that this is not possible, unless I’ve missed something.
JohnI’d like to be able to set a precise pan value in the mixer. It seems bizarre that this is not possible, unless I’ve missed something.
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.4.0
Operating system: Windows 11
Hi, I guess you mean that you would like to be able to input a number with your computer keyboard?
If you have trouble finding the exact right position while dragging the pan slider with your mouse, holding the Shift button lets you fine-tune the value.
BR,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
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