SD3 3.0.3 GUI problem

[Guy Rowland]

(posted this in the DAW subforum by mistake, this looks like the right forum for it).

Just updated to 3.0.3 in W10 Anniversary Edition, and on the drums page I now have 2 columns for the Box, whereas it used to be 1:

https://i.imgur.com/DGRP4nG.png

If I try to drag something from the left box to the right at the bottom, it vanishes behind an invisible grey wall. If I let go, it snaps to the bottom, and the top right hand tab jumps to the bottom of the left hand column. Very odd. Just happened after installing the update. Help!

Thanks.

EDIT – also I can’t now resize the Search For Instrument box – could be imagining this, but thought it did resize before. But all my snare brushes are now showing up which is great – thanks for that in the update.

EDIT 2 – no problems on the MacBook Pro – happens in Windows standalone and Cubase 9.

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[John]

Hi,

this would simply be according to a height/width ratio. If you change the width of the GUI, the Boxes will jump back into one column.
You can always Reset to Default size in the View Menu. The Box View also has a Reset to Default.

Search for Instrument view is not separately resizable, columns yes but the entire View is depending on the entire GUI size.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Guy Rowland]

Thanks John – it looks to me that the ratio at which the behaviour is triggered is different between Windows and Mac, and it’s a little too jumpy in Windows. It’s useful to have the midi mapping keys open, so that’s three columns of real estate that eat into the main drum window – this itself would be fine if the extra space that the box area takes up is of use, but it’s just a big grey space. Also it’s easier and quicker to find which tab you need if it isn’t moving about as you resize.

As it stands, the drum pane can get pretty cramped while the box area is literally a waste of space, eg this configuration is pretty ugly:

https://i.imgur.com/dfyPnFK.jpg

Yet making the window a fraction smaller makes the UI far easier to use:

https://i.imgur.com/7JFU6iV.jpg

Would you folks mind tweaking it in Windows to make just one column the norm for expanded 16:9 ratio monitors, and only trigger the two columns in more extreme circumstances?

Understood re Instrument view, and many thanks for your help.

[Henrik Ekblom]

So before the 3.0.3 – your first screenshot would have only shown one property box column and the Piano Mapping Keys view?

When the width of the window gets bigger than about 1500 px, the property boxes shows two columns – both on PC (Windows) and Mac, so I wonder why you experience a difference there. Do you have a big size difference between the screens you’ve tested the Mac and PC scenarios on? It doesn’t change the set width where one column turns into two, but it may be perceived as different…

I understand what you mean with the “jumpiness” feeling of the boxes, and I’ll see if we can find the time to take a look at that!

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

[Guy Rowland]

Thanks again Henrik. I’d never knowingly triggered two property column boxes before at any size, but I could have just been co-incidence perhaps. And my MBP’s resolution is larger, so logical it might trigger the switch in a different place.

Perhaps the best solution here – I did read of one person who has all his tabs maximised and made use of two columns – would be to make it a manual preference. Perhaps the most logical place would be under the Show dropdown, a “restrict to single column” button perhaps under boxes?

[Guy Rowland]

…or perhaps a more elegant method might be that the 2nd column is only triggered if the tabs in the first column reach the bottom of the window? Then it would be a genuinely need-based thing, and automatic.

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