roughly, how many sounds are there per drum?

[Lukas Grumet]

Dear Community,

Recently I’ve produced a song using SD3 and was noticing that when I program the midi notes, the interpretation of SD3 sometimes abruptly changes when I go from i.e. 117 to 118 in velocity. I realize that there are 127 note velocity values, but there certainly aren’t 127 different stroke velocities for each drum, right? Does anyone know how many there are in fact, and when SD3 uses which “velocity-sample”? (i.e. soft stroke 1-10, medium stroke 20-60…and so on?)

best regards,

• This post was modified 6 years, 4 months ago by Lukas Grumet.

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[Olof Westman]

This varies from drum to drum. E.g the default snare in SD3 Core, Slinderland Radio King, has 24 velocity layers in its Center articulation while the Lignum Custom has 16. The others sit somewhere in between. Fewer layers does not necessarily mean that it sounds worse or even that it has fewer sounds. In fact, the Lignum Center articulation has about 30 more sounds than that of the Radio King.

The kick with the most layers in SD3 Core is 18×26″ Pearl Masterworks with 24 and the one with fewest is Ayotte Classic Jazz Tuning with 14.

Olof Westman - Toontrack
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Thanked by: Lukas Grumet

[Lukas Grumet]

thanks a lot! what do you mean when you say that the center articulation of one snare has 30 more sounds than some other snare? is it that one certain velocity with one certain articulation (center) has more than one sound? how come?

[Olof Westman]

Yes, each velocity layer contains several sounds to combat the machine gun effect.

If you go into Hit Variation and turn off Randomize Hits and Use Adjacent Layers most of the sounds of the layers are mapped to some fixed velocity/velocities. You can try that to get a feeling for how many sounds there are.

The snare Center has on average about 100 sounds. The small Sonor Force Jungle has 145. I think that is the highest number.

Olof Westman - Toontrack
Coder

[Gonzalo Gonzalez Braun]

dear mr Coder.

 

There is a loooot you need to improove your software. Its not net really intuitive and really tedious to add samples. There is simply not enought direct access TO EVERYTHING. Which in the end means a huhe Timeloss.

Please learn from sofware like maya 3-D or Logic Pro X how windows Menus and accessibility of everything is handled. Lots of menu items in Superior drummer need 3 or more steps WHICH SHOULD just work with ONE Step. Learn and improove otherwise someone else could through you with ease out of the market!!

“an angry user”

Thanks

 

 

 

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

[Mark King]

Not everyone feels like you do. SD3 is really powerful and has fantastic sounds. The best I’ve heard. It is also the best to play with an edrums. Yes there are niggles but to me this is by far the best drum software.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[mickg]

Gonzalo Gonzalez Braun wrote:

dear mr Coder.

 

There is a loooot you need to improove your software. Its not net really intuitive and really tedious to add samples. There is simply not enought direct access TO EVERYTHING. Which in the end means a huhe Timeloss.

Please learn from sofware like maya 3-D or Logic Pro X how windows Menus and accessibility of everything is handled. Lots of menu items in Superior drummer need 3 or more steps WHICH SHOULD just work with ONE Step. Learn and improove otherwise someone else could through you with ease out of the market!!

“an angry user”

Thanks

 

 

 

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

I just came from world of BFD3. SD3 is light years beyond. I couldn’t be happier. There is a learning curve with all software and sure there are things that can be better , but wow, this is pretty great.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

[Bear-Faced Cow]

mickg wrote:

Gonzalo Gonzalez Braun wrote:

dear mr Coder.

 

There is a loooot you need to improove your software. Its not net really intuitive and really tedious to add samples. There is simply not enought direct access TO EVERYTHING. Which in the end means a huhe Timeloss.

Please learn from sofware like maya 3-D or Logic Pro X how windows Menus and accessibility of everything is handled. Lots of menu items in Superior drummer need 3 or more steps WHICH SHOULD just work with ONE Step. Learn and improove otherwise someone else could through you with ease out of the market!!

“an angry user”

Thanks

 

 

 

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

I just came from world of BFD3. SD3 is light years beyond. I couldn’t be happier. There is a learning curve with all software and sure there are things that can be better , but wow, this is pretty great.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

I jumped ship from BFD3 last year for many reasons and glad I did. Not only easier to use but I’ve stated many times that the drums sound like music rather than noise (and there’s a huge difference). I get the exact mix I’m looking for without a struggle.

Unintuitive is such a highly overrused word… or in the words of Inigo Montoya:

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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