Roland TD50 and side stick triggering on SD3

[Bryso44]

Does anyone know if it’s possible to trigger the side stick from the Roland TD50 without losing the rimshot? BFD picks up the TD50 side stick (place hand on snare head) without any problems and you still have the rimshot too.

Is this possible in SD3?

Thanks in advance

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[John]

Hi,

the TD50 is sending separate MIDI notes for the Side stick and Rimshot, right? Then I don’t see a problem. Even if it would use the same note, you can setup one to be triggered on lower velocity and the other on higher velocity hits.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Bryso44]

Hi John,

No I don’t see separate notes coming in when I monitor the MIDI events. I see the same note for side stick and rimshot which I thought was odd since it works with BFD.

Cheers

[John]

OK,

is it Velocity controlled when you try with BFD? If so, you can do the same with SD3.
Stack the Side stick with the Rimshot note and set the Velocity Gate to e.g. 0 – 65 for the side stick and 66 – 127 for the Rimshot.
These value depend on your playing style, of course, so you may want to increase or decrease the point where the two are switched.

I am not a TD-50 user myself, so hopefully some user(s) will chime in.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Bryso44]

Thanks for the reply.

It works in BFD without velocity switching and as far as I know it should work in SD3 too. I’ve posted this over in the VDrums forum so hopefully someone there with a TD50 can help. In the meantime I’ll try your suggestion of velocity control.

Thanks!

[Mark King]

The Td50 will either send the sidstick as a separate note or not. So if it doesn’t then bfd is using velocity switching. The TD30 has button on the front when pressed uses a different note number for side stick. I take it Td50 doesn’t?

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Bryso44]

I solved the issue!

In the TD50 you must have a sound assigned to the snare or it won’t transmit xstick. I had a kit setup for VST’s with all the sounds removed from all the pads, so I wouldn’t have to lower all the volume sliders on the module when I only wanted to play VST’s.

I switched to the next kit up that has sounds assigned and the xstick started working in SD3!

Cheers
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Thanked by: Samuel Braun

[Samuel Braun]

Thanks for sharing that. Strange behavior of the TD-50 firmware but it solves the issue!

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