Jean-Guy DemersRecently picked up a Roland Td-17 kit and have been trying all night to set the 3 position ride up so that the Bell skank is triggered as well as Bow and on the edge a crash cymbal.
I have tried the learn feature and i have tried reassigning the midi notes but nothing I do seems to work. Also not very easy to set up 2 different crash cymbals on the 2 triggering surfaces of the 2 crash cymbals as well.
With no preset for the TD-17 what should be a relatively easy thing to do has become a complete nightmare. Any tips or tricks or even better a video would be greatly appreciated.
Henrik EkblomThe easiest solution would be if you stacked the bell and bow articulation on the edge, so when you hit that note, it will play the two sounds. Would this be a usable solution in your case?
Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
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Jean-Guy DemersHenrik not sure why but every once in a while i would get the ride to do exactly what i wanted but it would change my other setting like tom 1 rim as a splash back to a crash.
Then I would have Cymbal 1 and Rim 1 triggering the same crash. Trying to use the learn function to set Tom 1 rim back to a splash would result in the Tom 1 now becoming a cymbal.
Was really doing a lot of buggy stuff. That had me baffled beyond belief. I know the TD-17 does not have what they call positional sensing but when playing the ride it does have 3 very distinct zones.
I now have it working but to explain it to someone else I have no clue what i did to be honest. Some one really needs to do a setup video to show how to get things like this with different modules working 100% this would be a very valuable tool to anyone that has bought your products.
I have now saved this as a preset in both the stand alone as well as my DAW reaper.
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Thanked by: Henrik Ekblom
Mark KingRecord the output and write down all the note numbers. Then go into the edrum settings and manually add them to the different instruments and articulations. Do none of the other Roland presets get close?
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Jean-Guy DemersMark the closets preset would have to be for the TD-50. I did exactly what you are suggesting by finding out what midi notes my module puts out. Very close to the TD-50 but the ride was most definitely the hardest to get perfect.
I did do it the way you have suggested and that worked great for making the rims on the toms splash, crash and and extra china!
Getting the 3 position ride to function as I believed it should and could was another story. Once i decided to make it a 2 zone with bow tip on the bow and bell shank on the bell all of a sudden all three zones began to work as I was hoping it would.
Like i said I do not understand how or why it now works but as soon as it did I saved it as my preset and within my daw “Reaper” as a template.
If it was possible I would most definitely be willing to share this preset as it is really amazing how well the TD-17 can perform with Superior Drummer 3.
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Thanked by: Henrik EkblomMark KingBrilliant. Glad you got it sorted and a great idea to share for others ?
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Jean-Guy DemersNo clue what is going on but today I open it up and once again from my preset it has switched out my settings again! This is beyond frustrating to say the least.
Henrik EkblomThe MIDI settings are loaded from the project, meaning that if you always want a certain MIDI mapping loaded as soon as starting Superior Drummer 3, do the changes and save a Default Project (found in the main File menu). This means that Superior Drummer 3 will load the current settings, drums, mixer, etc. as you currently are using.
The settings aren’t automatically saved and loaded the next time you open Superior Drummer 3, because when you save a project, you may want to use that MIDI mapping for only that project.
Reply back here if you can’t get it to work!
Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
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