GADeuvall2000Hey everyone, maybe it’s something I”m missing because I am having to currently use OCR due to my lack of vision, but I am having an issue with replacement pieces on some kits.
Here’s my situation exactly as it happens.
I select the Andy Sneed 2 Kit as my preset template.
I select Cymbal 1 to replace it.
WHen I select any cymbal from any other pack, including from SD3, the cymbal does not produce any sound.
WHat I was hoping to do was simply replace the cymbal on there since that cymbal is already mapped to a pad on my TD-50, however when replacing the cymbal, it just goes blank and no sound generates, even though the cymbal is loaded. This does not happen when I just first load SD3 then swap cymbals out from the default kit settings.
Additionally, maybe I’m missing something due to OCR not finding it, but isn’t there a simple way to midi learn a trigger? like in SD2? I can find the midi mapping section but it doesn’t seem to really bring anything up that OCR can find.
an accessible overlay for this product is being worked on, but it will be along while before it’s ready, so I am doing what I can for now. there’s no telling how long off it will be, could be several months.
Henrik EkblomThis is most likely because some mixer channels have their volume set to nothing. Some preset makers have turned down the volume, since those channels didn’t fit into the sound of that preset. Those channels are sometimes also hidden – to make the mixer less cluttered.
In the mixer, click on the “Show All” button (above the mixer channels) to reveal all hidden channels. You’ll see some OH (overhead) channels that will have their volume turned down. Raise those volumes and see which ones that has the cymbal you are looking for. You can also disable the Hide button on the hidden channels, if you wish to have them shown 🙂
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Thanked by: chaosphere_1GADeuvall2000Hmm, it doesn’t seem to do this whenever adding the additional cymbal as, say, a additional instrument. but why would it silence the sound of a cymbal from it’s own expansion? that’s the part that puzzles me. like, absolutely no sound plays on cymbal 1 when he preset is loaded, except the cymbal that is default to the kit piece, or at least that’s how it’s looking.
Henrik EkblomThis is most likely because some mixer channels have their volume set to nothing.
I may have been wrong here, what I explained has happened with some other presets, like the Bob Rock presets.
…but why would it silence the sound of a cymbal from it’s own expansion?
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GADeuvall2000OKay..
* I do have all parts of SD3 installed
* I tested both standalone and within a DAW (Reaper)
* I do have the latest update installed
Let me make sure I am a bit clearer on what is happening, because after reading my own post it does sound a bit offset from what it meant.
I will load the Andy Sneed 2 Preset and everything plays once all the sounds are loaded.
I can add additional kit pieces from different expansion libraries and they play just fine. EG: I add the bell from the Drums of Destruction EZX as an additional instrument, and it loads and plays just fine.
I can swap kick, snare or toms on the Andy Sneed preset and they play just fine.
I can load any other preset in SD3, and swapping out cymbals works fine for me. I just tried with several different other presets with no
issues with any of them.
If I don’t load any preset and change out kit pieces, it plays just fine.
IT just seems to be affecting me with the Andy Sneed presets thus far. if I load them, they work fine with default cymbals, however, changing out cymbals causes sound to go silent.
Being blind I cannot check the mixer, but common sense would tell me that if any cymbal is being replace, especially since it’s working everywhere else thus far, it shouldn’t be an issue here. If I am missing something, I apologize for being a bother, but I just don’t understand what is going on here.
Olof WestmanJust as Henrik wrote, this is caused by that preset using the OH Cond instead of the OH Dyn, which is the dedicated close mic for the cymbals. When you change to a cymbal from another library, which does not have the OH Cond, its OH gets assigned to the OH Dyn since that is the proper close mic for that instrument. It just so happens that this preset has turned off the volume for OH Dyn. What you need to do is to go to Route Instrument Microphones for your cymbal and reassign its OH to OH Cond. You may need to do the same thing for the Ambience mic too.
The Cymbal 3 makes no sound even when you load a cymbal from S3 Core because although this preset uses the OH Cond it hasn’t specified that that mic should be used for that empty position. That is an oversight in the preset making.
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Thanked by: chaosphere_1GADeuvall2000Okay how do I do the routing of mics? This may not be possible with my screen reader currently, but soon, we will hopefully have a SIBIAC overlay for this, but currently I”m ust using OCR to explore and evaluate stuff.
What general area would it be in and any text nearby This is how I have been learning this software thus far.
Henrik EkblomIn the Drums tab, go to More menu and select Route Instrument Microphones.
You can also right click an instrument, and select Route Instrument Microphones.
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GADeuvall2000I’m not seeing a button labeled more, so maybe it’s not a button, and I don’t use the physical photo of the drums to select my instruments, but rather the dropdown list to do so, since it reads names. Anyways, I’m still trying to figure something out for now. Thanks.
BTW, where could the more button be found close to?
Also, is there a midi learn function for drum pads? I thought there was.
Henrik EkblomBTW, where could the more button be found close to?
In the top middle part above the drum kit is the More button, just right of the drop down menu where the instrument is changed.
Also, is there a midi learn function for drum pads? I thought there was.
This is easiest handled in Settings / MIDI IN/E-drums, and you can use MIDI learn. This is where the mapping for different e-drums/pads is handled. The mapping you make here can be saved as a preset.
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