Removing bleed from OHs

[kibepuravik]

Hey guys!

I’m trying to create my own personal drum sound in Studio One 6 using EZD3’s Original Mix preset, but no matter how I route the tracks, I cannot seem to stop everything bleeding into the overheads. The hi-hat is the worst offender (it seriously sounds louder in the OH track than the hi-hat track). I’ve even tried switching to EZD2’s Modern Kit’s Original Mix preset (since EZD3’s Original Mix presets lack the bleed knobs, which is baffling) and turning all the bleed knobs down, but that, for whatever reason, mutes the OHs entirely. Turning the bleed up in the Mono Amb channel brings back the cymbals for the OH track, but the kick, snare, hi-hat, etc. come along with it. Playing around with the other bleed knobs does nothing.

I feel like there’s probably some obvious fix that I’m missing. I hope you guys can help!

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: Windows 11

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[Shootie]

Depending on which preset you use, you can find some worthy bleed controls. Of course routing out a non-Orignal Mix Preset may not retain the tone of the preset. There’s give and take with all options here.

 

I think with your expectations, crossgrading to Superior Drummer is the only option for ultimate bleed control. I hope a TT mode will correct me if I’m wrong.

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[akabusker]

Studio one user here.  Are you using Artist or Professional?

Do you have multi-output set up in Ezdrummer so that there’s individual tracks in the vst instrument window?

If so, does your mixer in Studio One showing corresponding tracks to the Ezdrummer set-up?

Are you mixing your drums to a bus?  If so do you have Mix FX enabled on the Drum Bus?  If so switch it off.

There’s some other settings like listen thru bus you might want to switch off.

 

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: Windows 10

[kibepuravik]

Shootie wrote:

I think with your expectations, crossgrading to Superior Drummer is the only option for ultimate bleed control. I hope a TT mode will correct me if I’m wrong.

Are you serious? Why have routing options in EZD3 at all then? Crossgrading to Superior Drummer just to get isolated drum samples seems a little overkill to me. It just seems incredibly limiting for no reason.

akabusker wrote:

Studio one user here. Are you using Artist or Professional? Do you have multi-output set up in Ezdrummer so that there’s individual tracks in the vst instrument window? If so, does your mixer in Studio One showing corresponding tracks to the Ezdrummer set-up? Are you mixing your drums to a bus? If so do you have Mix FX enabled on the Drum Bus? If so switch it off. There’s some other settings like listen thru bus you might want to switch off.

I’m using the latest version of Studio One 6 Artist. I’ve set up stereo multichannel routing through EZD3 for kick-in, snare top, hi-hat, rack toms, floor toms, OH (including ride) and amb respectively. I’ve also created separate tracks for each of the routed channels in the Studio One instrument tab on the left side of the mixer. Each of the channels in EZD3 is routed to a separate track, which I can mute and solo as needed. All of the drum sounds are isolated as expected, all except the OH channel, which is what’s left me scratching my head. I’m not using any bus channels in this case and Studio One 6 Artist doesn’t even have Mix FX.

[akabusker]

Hi.  I tried to install S1 artist last night to check out this issue you are having.  Unfortunately my computer wouldn’t let me use the Artist version alongside the Professional version.

You’re right about mix fx – which is why my first question was which version of S1 you were using.   Unfortunately I have to mess around with my system to test this out which might take a further day.

[shureak]

Same issue with Ableton and EZD3. OH has bleed from all other drums, I want have an option to remove that bleed to get clean Cymbals track without any bleed. Please help

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: macOS Sonoma (14)

[John]

Well,
you could always start from a Preset that has an OH Bleed Knob (or more) on the Mixer page , like e.g. most of the Michael Ilbert Main Room presets, and then remove the Bleed and switch out kit pieces if needed.
If you come up with something you like, you save it as your own User Preset.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Bear-Faced Cow]

It’s right there in the mixer tab…

jord

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[Weathercade]

I know this is an old thread but this may help someone.

I’ve had the same issue.  In Reaper I ended up routing OHs to a non existent channel on my main drum track and loading another instance of ezd3 on a separate track with only cymbals no other drums or hats.  It’s not CPU efficient but it completely avoids any unwanted bleed for mixes that has no bleed control.

You can then make a main drum bus to group it all together.

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: Windows 11

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