Question about bleed

[lingtalfi]

Hi, I love Superior Drummer 3, but I have a hard time understanding how bleed work.

In the tutorial I’m following, there is too much snare rattle noise when we click the high tom, and the teacher attenuates that noise by going to the mixer tab, and then click the snare bottom mic track, and then reduce the volume of the Racktom1/2 from the “Bleed from instruments” panel (on the right).

I don’t understand how that work, isn’t this operation supposed to remove some racktom noise from the snare?

(but instead, we effectively hear less snare noise from the racktom, so the teacher was right, but I don’t understand the logic)

Because to me it would have felt more intuitive, in order to remove snare noise from the racktom, to click the racktom1 mic track (in the mixer), and remove the snare bleed from it (from the “Bleed from instruments” panel on the right).

Can somebody explain me why that work, and if my logic is wrong or right?

 

Thanks.

 

 

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

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[Erik]

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You’re on the right track!

You just need to have a different perspective: what you’re turning down isn’t the tom, but what the microphone is picking when you’re striking the tom. In this case, the snare moves from the energy released by the tom. The snare bottom mic is right next to the snare wires, so when they move, the wires are relatively louder than the toms.

If you want to try it and see that the toms really are there, you can solo the Snare Bottom microphone and add an EQ to it. Add a low pass filter at around 500 Hz and turn up the volume. Make sure that you have bleed enabled ; )

Erik Berglund — Toontrack

• This post was modified 5 years, 8 months ago by Erik.

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[lingtalfi]

Thanks, it starts to make sense.

Just to be 100% sure, if in the mixer I click on the snare bottom channel, and lower the Racktom1 bleed (from the “Bleed from instruments” panel), what I lower is the level of the Racktom1 picked up by the snare bottom mike when the Racktom1 is striked, is that correct?

(If so, it all makes sense.)

 

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

[Erik]

That’s exactly right!

Erik Berglund — Toontrack

[lingtalfi]

awesome, thank you.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

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