Project Loading in Reaper 6

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  • José Sanguino
    Participant

    Mmmm… I use Reaper, too. From what you say in your post, I think you’re a bit confused and must have done something wrong. First of all, if you SAVE a project from inside the SD3 Virtual Instrument Window in a Reaper project, you’re saving your tracker data as an SD3 project, so that it can be opened up again, both from the Standalone version, or the Virtual Instrument version. – And if you save your Reaper project and save it within Reaper’s menu “File>save as…” and give it a name (personally, I save my projects within a “Reaper Projects” folder, and I have my default project settings so that every time I create a new project, a new folder is created using the name of my project, inside that folder, a Reaper project file (RPP) with the name of my project is kept within that same folder and every audio item recorded is kept within a folder called “Audio”. In case some of my tracks use audio loops or one-shot audios from any of my libraries, those are COPIED into the project folder as well (it takes up more space, but if you set up your default project that way, you can be sure that everything you need is within the folder with the name of your project – and if you make a backup copy of your project for safety or just to store it, you can safely trust that everything you need is right there in the project name’s folder: the Audio folder with the recorded audio tracks, the loops, and Reaper’s RPP (project) file.

    And that’s where I think you’ve made a mistake. You say when you open Reaper, you read “Untitled” on the top of the window. You have probably saved your REAPER project not as a new customized project with its own name, but as a DEFAULT TEMPLATE PROJECT. That is to say, whenever you open up Reaper, the software creates a new (Untitled) project, BUT WITH SD3 LOADED UP, WITH NO PRESET OR DATA LOADED!!! – And every time you open up Reaper, you’ll get the same result. Either that, or you have saved the project with the name “untitled”

    To fix this up, first you should create a new default template project. – You may wonder how to do this. I’d open up a new project. You’ll probably find one SD3 track with the instrument loaded already (because it seems you saved that as Default). Delete the SD3 track and make sure everything is empty. Go to Reaper’s “File” menu, choose “Project templates” and then “save as a new template”. Save it as the DEFAULT TEMPLATE.

    Then, go to Reaper’s “File” menu, and choose “Project settings…”. You’ll get a window with several tabs (Project settings, media, video, etc…). On the “Media” tab, I’d set a path for my audio files (just type “Audio” in the first blank space (this way, anything you record or import into reaper will be placed there). Then click the button to “save the settings as default for the default project”.

    And finally, whenever you are going to save a new project, make sure that you’re in your “Reaper Projects” folder, that you have checked the box to create a folder with the project name, that the box to copy (and convert) audio is also checked (that way, if you have used one-shot samples or looped samples they’ll be copied into your project’s audio folder with the audio format you choose). Make sure you type a NAME for your project and save.


    Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.5
    Operating system: Windows 10
    José Sanguino
    Participant

    Oh, another thing: if you keep saving your SD3 tracker projects within SD3 Virtual instruments, you may have to load them up again… I never save my projects that way. I always create MIDI items in my SD3 reaper track just by dragging & dropping MIDI items from the Groove libraries, modify them within reaper’s track, or create new empty MIDI items and draw my drum notes into it. – If I make any changes to the loaded SD3 kit (whatever: tuning of a drum, swap one cymbal for another, set the mixer fxs differently…), I save MY KIT as an USER kit. (NOT as an SD3 project).


    Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.5
    Operating system: Windows 10
    Spiros
    Participant

    I’m getting a bit confused here so i’ll post my steps one by one:

    1. Load Reaper
    2. Load my multitrack
    3. Save my project as (create subdirectory & copy media) “Metallica Drum Cover.rpp”
    4. Create Instrument Track for SD3
    5. Load drum tracks to The Tracker from Reaper’s project folder
    6. Save SD3 project in Reaper’s project folder as “Metallica Drum Cover.sd3p”
    7. Start editing the audio to midi
    8. Save my (Metallica Drum Cover.sd3p) SD3 project
    9. Save my (Metallica Drum Cover.rpp) Reaper Project and quit.

    So when i open another moment, or another day the Reaper session, my SD3 project loads automatically.

    All my settings, edits etc are there.

    But..! It doesn’t load as a my previously saved “Metallica Drum Cover.rpp”.

    It’s an untitled project with all my settings.

    So every-time i load my session i cancel the loading of SD3 and open my saved SD3 session.

     


    Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.5
    Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

    Just for today be grateful !

    José Sanguino
    Participant

    First, let me get this straight: when you say:

    All my settings, edits etc are there. But..! It doesn’t load as a my previously saved “Metallica Drum Cover.rpp”.

    Do you mean that EVERYTHING is there? Your metallica Multitracks and any recorded MIDI tracks, but it appears as “Untitled” instead of “Metallica Drum Cover.RPP?

    OK. Let’s check something first: get into the “Options>Preferences…” menu from Reaper’s Toolbar. You’ll be shown the Preferences window. Make sure you are in the “General” section (“General” should be selected on the left panel of the Preferences window. Look at the attached image: Which option have you selected in the drop-down menu for “Open project(s) on startup” within the “Startup Settings” section? – If you want your last project to open again as it was, you should choose either “Last saved project” or “Last project tabs”, click on “Apply” and then “OK” to save and exit the “Preferences…” window. Save your Reaper project and quit Reaper (DO NOT choose “close project” from the “File” menu. Simply, after saving, either choose “QUIT” from the “file” menu, or close the Reaper window. With any of those two options selected for startup behaviour, Reaper should open your last project whenever you start Reaper again. If you CLOSE the project before you QUIT reaper, it won’t reopen your project because it wasn’t active (open & changes saved) when you QUIT Reaper.

    Maybe the problem is that you have a different option selected in that drop-down menu. Maybe you have one of the other options selected (either “New project”, or “New project (ignoring default template – “Prompt” would ask you what to do before doing anything else). If your selection is “Last Active Project”, it should reopen your “Metallica Drum Cover.RPP” file AS LONG AS you didn’t CLOSE your project before QUITTING reaper. The same if your selection is “Last project tabs”. (This option is present because Reaper allows you to have more than one project open at the same time, and there are tabs from switch from one project to another – Sometimes you may wish to copy one track (or its contents) from one project into another project. The only way to do that is to have both projects open at the same time in different tabs. You choose one tab, copy the track/contents from it, then go to the other project tab, and paste). If you only have one project open, it won’t make a difference if you have “Last Active project” or “Last project tabs”, because you only had one project, and if it was active when you quit Reaper, it will be reopened if you have the right choice within “Startup Settings”.

    I still fail to see the need to save your SD3 project. Are you working inside it within Reaper as if it were the Standalone version of SD3? When I use SD3 as a VST instrument, I do all of my work within the Reaper track where SD3 is loaded. You can drag & drop MIDI clips from the “Groove” section to the Reaper track where SD3 is loaded, and if you wish to edit some MIDI, double click on the MIDI item within the track in Reaper and Reaper’s MIDI editor will open the item. You can make your changes there. When reopening your MIDI project, SD3 should still be there, with the SDX kit you had selected (and preset changes). You don’t need to record anything inside SD3’s “Tracker” tab, or save anything there. Just work on your SD3’s Reaper track. (Of course, if you are using external Multitrack(s) by Metallica, those should be imported within REAPER first, as audio tracks (remember to pick the right tempo before importing your multitrack audio media files).

    Let me know if any of this has been of use to you.


    Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.5
    Operating system: Windows 10
    Spiros
    Participant

     

    Sorry! I meant Metallica Drum Cover.sd3p

    I have no issues with the Reaper Project.

    Only with the sd3p when I run in in the DAW

    Just for today be grateful !

    • This post was modified 3 years, 9 months ago by Spiros.
    José Sanguino
    Participant
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    Well. I guess that’s… normal! You are saving a SD3 project from inside Reaper, and Reaper will load up your SD3 VST instrument as it was when you saved the project (whatever drumkit/preset you had loaded, and even the status of your mixer/sends), but I guess it won’t open the project from inside SD3 upon loading the project! I guess you’d have to do that yourself if you want to keep on working that way! So, once your Reaper project is open, try going to the “file” menu from within SD3 VSTi window and open your sd3p project, and see if everything works!

    Again, I think your workflow is flawed: I wouldn’t use Superior Drummer 3 project files UNLESS I were just using Superior Drummer 3 in the “Standalone” mode (that is, not from inside a DAW, but just opening SD3!). If you wish to play over a Multitrack session you have found somewhere, just create a Reaper Project, load the stems for every instrument you need (again, choose your BPM first thing before importing the multitrack, and then align the stems to your project grid). Then load SD3 as an instrument in another Reaper track. In SD3 VST’s window just make any changes you need to your kit, or your mixer, and SAVE just YOUR PRESET. I wouldn’t save a project. Then, set up your reaper track (if you’re playing “live” from an external MIDI drum kit to receive MIDI data from that MIDI device, and record your drumming on Reaper’s track!. If you aren’t going to play your drums yourself, but you’re going to create your drumming by using SD3’s MIDI beats library, just DRAG and DROP your favourite intros, verses, etc… from the “Grooves” section onto your SD3 track in Reaper.

    Try this with a new project and tell me how that works for you.


    Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.5
    Operating system: Windows 10

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