Problem Recording Overhead Mics in Superior Drummer 3

[drummer1420]

Can anyone help with why tracker will not pick up what was recorded on overhead mics. Have 8 tracks of drums recorded in Studio one 4 using eight separate mics. Condenser mics are used in xy pattern. No problem with recording and I realize that tracker will only pick up cymbals for the condenser mics. The problem is tracker only pics up very soft cymbal crashes. It does not pick up what’s being played on the ride cymbal even if I only record the overheads and then import that into tracker it still only picks up very light cymbal crashes. Can anyone shed into light on how I fix this

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.6
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Brad]

Hi there,

Would you be able to zip up just a couple of bars, maybe just try the OH tracks for now, and post it here so one of us can try to sort it out?

 

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

[drummer1420]

Here’s the file in question. Measures 1-4 are on the high hats & 5-9 are on the ride cymbal on the right. Left & Right overheads set up in xy position. As you’ll see, tracker not picking up what’s being played on high hat or ride. Measures 1-9 just a simple eight-note pattern. Other times high hats duplicate the snare.

Also, can you tell me why I cant create multi track channels with the preset I’ve selected

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

[drummer1420]

Here’s another file.  This time around the snare has a lot of ghosted notes. How do I adjust so tracker picks up the ghost note patterns? Also this time around tracker analyzes high hat as a tom. I did go back in after I sent file and change the recognition to high hat and that did seem to fix the issue but on another file I did it recognize high hat as snare and duplicate the snare even after changing recognition to high hat

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

[drummer1420]

Here’s a final file. This one is even worse. Measures 1-32 is just 8th notes on high hat and measures 33-61 I played an 8th note & 2 16th notes throughout on the ride cymbal. As you see, rides cymbals hardly picks up anything. I even move the sm57 mic from high hat and placed it over the ride to rule out the condenser mics being the problem. I’d greatly appreciate any help

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

[Brad]

Cool, I am going to look at them over the next couple of days… As well a few others may jump. It’s a pretty good group around here.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

[Brad]

I just unzipped one of them and unfortunately it’s a just the SD3 project file. There are no .wav files in it. I need the raw .wav files.

You can either export the as stems (make sure there are no plugins on the tracks) or you can go into pool, right/option click on the file and find them on your PC and send those.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

[drummer1420]

Tracks are eight measures long and even after zipping I get message saying file is too large. Any suggestions

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

[Brad]

try just sending the overhead .wav (zipped’ and see if I can get the ride to be detected.

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

[drummer1420]

Even with just left overhead, it says file too big.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Put your ZIP file of your audio tracks on Google drive and post the link

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Brad]

Yup, what Jord wrote, or select a loop size of a couple of bars (a specifically trouble section if one exists) and just export that stem for the OH track.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

[drummer1420]

Do you by chance know if the file imported into tracker has to be in wave format? Files I imported in were in mp3 format and when I went and saved file as wave and imported that into tracker, it did appear to recognize the high hat a little better. I’ll play around with it again this evening and let you know. If that does not work, I’ll get the file to you from google drive.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

[Brad]

I have only ever used 24bit .wav files because they are of a higher quality. Yes, see if using a higher quality source file gives you improved results.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

• This post was modified 5 years, 4 months ago by Brad.

[Philip]

Hi – not sure if there was a resolution to this issue and don’t mean to hijack…but have a similar question.

What’s the consensus for cymbal recording? Use close mic setups as to mitigate bleed from other drums? I was thinking of miking the crash and ride with their own close mics for all the cymbal and ride hits, then manually adding hits in DAW if needed.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

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