Please, please: Interacting with MIDI in one block alters midi in other blocks

[Billy 86]

Sorry about the length of this post, but I’m dealing with something that has become so VERY frustrating. It happens in DAW and in standalone on two different computers. I’ve been experiencing this kind of thing for nearly 2 months.

Please, is anyone else experiencing this? Or Am I alone out in this teeth-grinding wilderness?

1. Create a couple of song parts, say Intro/verse/chorus. (I’m using the Basic Rock add-on pack “Let’s Make a Deal 120bpm “song”
2. Drag midi grooves from the library in to create a song
3. Copy a section of MIDI, say the verse to create a second verse. Paste it, or click/drag it to a new verse, doesn’t seem to matter.
4. Look at the verse you just copied from. Did note placement on its grid editor change?

Here’s some things I’m experiencing:

• Copy/paste — or sometimes editing notes in either the copy or the pasted section — will alter the note placement on the Grid Editor in the other block. What it’s doing is altering the octave of some notes, pushing them up at least an entire octave, and sometimes into the “Above highest playable note in library section” at the top of the Grid Editor. I’m working in the key of B, and it mostly seems to be messing up the E notes, occasionally the G#; so, is it the fourth and sixth interval of the root in any particular key? I don’t know.
• I audition Grooves in my libraries. Sound good/normal. I drag them to the song track and sometimes notes (mostly E in my case) gets slammed way up in the octaves, sometimes “Above highest playable note in library” range. Not all the E notes do this. Some grooves also do this on a drag to song track or Replace Midi click, some don’t. Willy-nilly.

  This is a further frustration from this post back in July:

• https://www.toontrack.com/forums/topic/deleting-midi-in-one-song-block-alters-the-midi-in-other-song-blocks/ (There’s a zip file there of the project, if anyone is interested… I’m still working on this same project and experiencing all you’ve read here)
• John, a forum moderator, replicated this issue and forwarded to the tech team back in July, but no response, and my experience just keeps getting worse
• Hard to believe no one else is experiencing this, but I haven’t seen another mention of it.

Anybody?  — Thanks, Billy

EZbass version: 1.1.8
Operating system: Windows 10

SD3, EZD, EZ Keys 1&2, EZ Bass. Win10, i9/9900, all SSDs, 64g RAM, Cakewalk, Studio One

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[Olof Hermansson]

We have fixed this bug for the next update. Can’t say exactly when it will be released but it’s not very far off.

Olof Hermansson - Toontrack
Coder

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Thanked by: Billy 86

[Billy 86]

Olof Hermansson wrote:

We have fixed this bug for the next update. Can’t say exactly when it will be released but it’s not very far off.

Is it possible to roll back to version 1.1.7 where I wasn’t having this issue until the fix is released? It’s been months now. Thanks.

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[Billy 86]

Bump. Please toss me a bone of hope. Still slogging with this issue.

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[Billy 86]

Bump. As Pink Floyd wonders in The Wall: Is anybody out there…? This known/acknowledged TT issue from months and months ago is such a creativity killer. The opposite of what music-making should be.

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[Chenzo4u]

Not sure if this is related. I used the audio tracker to make a part. Now, while I edit it, anything I do (Eg; add a note, move a note, change a note length) the grid moves itself back to the very center instead of staying where I’m working. Literally any action in the grid basically takes me to an empty part of the grid. Also, when I do actually place a note, and it’s near another note, it won’t place the note where I put it. It will instead, move the note just before the new one, and place the new one where the previous note moved from.

I am new to using this program. But this HAS to be bugs, right? There can’t be some feature that would do this stuff right? It sounds soooo good, but it’s basically unusable in this state.

Operating system: Windows 11

[Billy 86]

Hi, Olof,

This week will be three months since this fix has been in the wings waiting for the next update… how far off is “not very far off”? :-/

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[Billy 86]

My issue doesn’t involve the audio tracker. It’s a midi issue. I can’t see  how they would be related.

SD3, EZD, EZ Keys 1&2, EZ Bass. Win10, i9/9900, all SSDs, 64g RAM, Cakewalk, Studio One

[Olof Hermansson]

Billy 86 wrote:

Hi, Olof,

This week will be three months since this fix has been in the wings waiting for the next update… how far off is “not very far off”? :-/

Yes sorry, I thought it would be ready sooner but it isn’t yet, it has been much delayed because of other development.

Olof Hermansson - Toontrack
Coder

[Chenzo4u]

The audio tracker writes midi. My issue is with the midi that’s been written. Specifically altering that midi.  I’m not positive, but I still think our issues are related.

Operating system: Windows 11

[Billy 86]

Yes, if you’re working with Midi that’s in the song track, it could definitely be related. As you may have read I’ve been waiting three months for a fix. It’s such a creativity killer.

SD3, EZD, EZ Keys 1&2, EZ Bass. Win10, i9/9900, all SSDs, 64g RAM, Cakewalk, Studio One

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Thanked by: Chenzo4u

[Chenzo4u]

Yes! I’ve been flummoxed over it. It’s absolutely a creativity killer. It’s a shame because the program and its articulations sound wonderful compared to what I can program in ableton. But it takes FOREVER to make simple changes to what the audio analyzer wrote.

[Billy 86]

Bump. What’s up?

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[Billy 86]

Bump. Hello? Why is TT ‘customer service’ like a black hole? It’s now been 5 months since TT replicated this issue and acknowledged this flaw as a known issue. So disappointing. No wonder TT keeps these forums from prospective customers and makes them post-sale only.

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Thanked by: Richard Marusarz

[Billy 86]

Bump. 5 months and counting for a fix to this known issue replicated by tech support. What is going on???

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Thanked by: Richard Marusarz

[Billy 86]

Bump

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