Playback Position Control inside Grid Editor

[James White]

All,

I am using Superior Drummer 3 with Studio One 3.5. I would like to be able to control the audio playback position by placing the cursor in the grid editor and/or the track window. Presently, no matter where I place the cursor in either of these windows, playback always jumps to and starts from the cursor position in Studio One.

Can anyone help me figure this out?

Thanks!

Matt

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.2
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Scott]

You can unclick the Follow Host in the S3 Song Track.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[James White]

Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately, that doesn’t solve the issue. When I turn off “Follow Host,” a lot of problems come up, and they’re worse than the one I posted about. Here’s what happens when I turn off “Follow Host”:

1. Tapping the space bar only makes the song play, the drums don’t play at all.
2. I must mouse over to and press the Play button in Superior Drummer. This makes the drums play solo, the backing track doesn’t play at all.
3. If I hit the space bar to make the backing tracks play, and I hit the Play Button in Superior Drummer, they both play, but they are not in sync due to the fact that they have two separate cursors that determine their play position.

I am customizing drum tracks to match original music. What I am looking for is the ability to control the play start position from within Superior Drummer that will keep the backing audio and the drums in sync with each other.

Thanks!

Matt

[Scott]

Well, S3 as a VST instrument plugin can’t control its host DAW’s playback/timeline. The host can control the plugin only.

If you want everything to play in sync, enable Follow Host and S3 will sync to the host’s timeline and playback (transport). There is no way to have S3 transports control the DAW.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Paul Lambert]

Is there any way you can add a “rewire” feature to enable controlling host playback? It is my biggest issue with SD3. It would make the workflow so much easier to manage if so. Thanks

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)

[Oliver Werbach]

Hi Matt!

Same with all instruments from Toontrack as AU or VST.
Would be really helpful to get it working the other way around as well.

The only workaround for now to align other midi tracks to SD3 or any other Ttoonrack instrument is to drag the midifiles out to the track and do the editing there. Not as smooth but as the drum editor in Studio one is great as well it does the Job.

 

Best, Oliver

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.4
Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)

[Hal cragin]

this would be good somehow.. as having to always keep the DAW visible to click the timeline…PITA… with all the featureS$ in SD3 midi Id love to stay in there .. Im in PT2020.12

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.4
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

[John]

Hi guys, as Scott posted above, there is no way for a VST plug-in to control the host’s playback functions. As for Rewire, Propellerheads/Reason Studios terminated it last year.

Perhaps the ARA-technology in the future but as for now there simply is no way to do it.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[b1j]

Yeah.  These suggestions are useless.  I watch YouTube videos where the presenter is able to actually decide where to begin playback.  Imagine that?  I cannot bring myself to believe that this is impossible in a four hundred dollar software.

 

And by the way, when I open Superior Drummer 3 and try to find the version, forget it.  Not available to me.  So don’t ask.  I bought it a week ago if that helps.

Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)

[John]

Hi b1j,

as stated earlier in this thread and other threads in the Forum, Toontrack cannot decide over what the host lets the plug-in do.

You can, however, use keyboard shortcuts that are passed through to the plug-in, such as ‘Shift+Spacebar’ for Play/Stop and ‘Alt/Option+Spacebar’ for Play/Pause.

IOW, if you point with the cursor on a specific Bar on the SD3 Timeline and then hit ‘Shift+Spacebar’, your host will not start playing but the SD3 Timeline will.

All Keyboard Shortcuts are available under Settings > Keyboard shortcuts.

BTW, a quick glance in the lower left corner of the interface will tell you which version you are on.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[b1j]

John, thank you for this excellent and helpful reply to my super-basic question!  You can tell I’m a rank beginner.  I appreciate your patient explanations of everything.  Such obvious answers!  I can see why I don’t find my question more often:  people just figure it out.

Thanks again.  I’m actually making progress with my first drum track.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.4
Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)

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