Pan option for single cymbals?

[bpjacobsen]

I’m finding it rather difficult to impossible to adjust pan settings for some pads, especially cymbals. Is there not a pan option somewhere withing the drums tab vs having to mess with the mixer? For example in Fields of Rock on the futuristic presets there is no individual setting for the cymbals. they are all mapped to 1/2 under OH, AMB whereas the snare and toms etc seem to have their own buses or what have you. Would be nice if there was an easy/quick way to adj pan per cymbal. What am I missing?

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[John]

Hi,

you are not missing anything. The Cymbals are recorded and panned in the studio space position as the producer intended.
However, you can create a new separate mixer channel for a cymbal by right-clicking it > More > Route Instrument Microphones.
Click the Close Microphone and route it to a new mixer channel, which can be panned as you wish. Of course positions in the AMB microphones will not be affected.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[bpjacobsen]

I’m getting mixed results. see attached example where I created new channel for a cymbal and can see the channel in the mixer but when I hit the cymbal, nothing registers on that new channel. some of them work fine and others like this one, it dn register anything on the newly added channel that is clearly mapped for that cymbal.

https://youtu.be/RvxwCJVag8Q

[Andrew Payne]

Click on the new channel and then check “properties” on the top right and make sure that the instrument you have selected has all required bleed turned on. Also make sure in “route instrument microphones” in the drums tab that you have selected all mixer channels you want the instrument to bleed to (including the new one you have set up). Hope this helps.

examples attached

cheers, Andrew

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 10

Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Windows 11, Cubase Pro 14, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat. PDP Maple acoustic kit for live playing.

[John]

Hi,

Andrew is right, you need to check the Properties of your new channel. In this particular preset, Crash 2 has got the ‘Close’ mic volume turned down completely in the Regular ‘OH’ channel, which is where the ‘Close’ signal is routed to. Crash 2 has got Bleed disabled except for in the OH Mono channel.
When you create a new mixer channel for the ‘Close’ signal, it “inherits” the volume for the ‘Close’ signal from the ‘OH’ channel, which in this particular case is ‘Off’.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[bpjacobsen]

yep, got it! missed that part. still learnin. thanks guys!

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Thanked by: John

[Andrew Payne]

We are all still learning and improving (hopefully) !!

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 10

Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Windows 11, Cubase Pro 14, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat. PDP Maple acoustic kit for live playing.

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