Tom ConnerThe 14″Zildjian A 1950’s/Zildjian K 1990s pedal closed hi hat in the Fields of Rock SDX at about 74 velocity has one sample with what sounds like some bongos and maybe a voice at the end. Thanks. Really like this library.
Six piece DWe, Roland BT-1s/eDRUMin, SD3 (State of the Art, Stockholm, Hitmaker, Legacy of Rock, Decades, Death & Darkness, Fields of Rock, Stories), RME Fireface, JH Audio IEMs w/Fiio Amplifier, Porter & Davies, Razer 16 laptop
The 14″Zildjian A 1950’s/Zildjian K 1990s pedal closed hi hat in the Fields of Rock SDX at about 74 velocity has one sample with what sounds like some bongos and maybe a voice at the end. Thanks. Really like this library.
Six piece DWe, Roland BT-1s/eDRUMin, SD3 (State of the Art, Stockholm, Hitmaker, Legacy of Rock, Decades, Death & Darkness, Fields of Rock, Stories), RME Fireface, JH Audio IEMs w/Fiio Amplifier, Porter & Davies, Razer 16 laptop
Tom ConnerCan confirm. Happened at 31 and 35 velocities.
edit: oh, and it’s on hit articulation to be clear.
- This post was modified 3 months ago by Shen G.
Ah thanks Shen, I forgot that kick drums are not just one articulation.
Six piece DWe, Roland BT-1s/eDRUMin, SD3 (State of the Art, Stockholm, Hitmaker, Legacy of Rock, Decades, Death & Darkness, Fields of Rock, Stories), RME Fireface, JH Audio IEMs w/Fiio Amplifier, Porter & Davies, Razer 16 laptop
KorkenKorken and Jordan, do you have the full installation of Fields of Rock, and Korken do you have the voice and layer limits for the 14 x 22“ Ludwig Hollywood B/O badge maple kick set to unlmited (a dash “-“)?
- This post was modified 3 months ago by Tom Conner.
Yes, I have the full installation. But voice and layers were not unlimited. I tried now and verified that with “gradient” unlimited I can hear the kick sample, hit articulation, at velocitiy 31 has the issue you mean. I tried with “The Godfather” kit and it is the same.
But, hey, there is more:
The 14″Zildjian A 1950’s/Zildjian K 1990s pedal closed hi hat...The 14″Zildjian A 1950’s/Zildjian K 1990s pedal closed hi hat in the Fields of Rock SDX at about 74 velocity has one sample with what sounds like some bongos and maybe a voice at the end. Thanks. Really like this library.
Operating system: Windows 11
The 14″Zildjian A 1950’s/Zildjian K 1990s pedal closed hi hat in the Fields of Rock SDX at about 74 velocity has one sample with what sounds like some bongos and maybe a voice at the end. Thanks. Really like this library.
Operating system: Windows 11
I was able now to find this issue with hi hat, closed pedal, velocity 74 that you reported in the first post. I understand this one was repaired with the update. But the one I reported was a different one:
The 14″Zildjian A 1950’s/Zildjian K 1990s pedal closed hi hat...The 14″Zildjian A 1950’s/Zildjian K 1990s pedal closed hi hat in the Fields of Rock SDX at about 74 velocity has one sample with what sounds like some bongos and maybe a voice at the end. Thanks. Really like this library.
Operating system: Windows 11
The 14″Zildjian A 1950’s/Zildjian K 1990s pedal closed hi hat in the Fields of Rock SDX at about 74 velocity has one sample with what sounds like some bongos and maybe a voice at the end. Thanks. Really like this library.
Operating system: Windows 11
I know it is solved, but before updating I wanted to test it. At velocity 74 or near I was not able to find anything, but at 105 I hear a sample where after the HH hit a voice is heard, followed by a sneeze (I think).
Please try with same hi hat, closed pedal, velocity 105. It is a different one!
As I still haven’t installed the update, I don’t know if this one was repaired too.
Bear-Faced CowOkay, now I hear it in the kick… must have been tired ears.
Picked up the one in hi-hat closed pedal as well.
jord
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Thanked by: BradKorkenOkay, now I hear it in the kick… must have been tired ears.
Picked up the one in hi-hat closed pedal as well.
jord
Nice. But which one, the one at 74velocity (repaired, I think) or the one at 105. They are different.
I remember now, when I was testing the kick, hit articulation at 31 velocity, I switched to the open articulation and one sample sounded a lot louder than the rest. I think now that this kind of “bug” should be very common in all libraries and it gives some kind of imperfection one could get from a human drummer too. I haven’t tested intensively in all libraries, but I think if one gets picky, one could find a lot of that kind of variations.
Bear-Faced CowI switched to the open articulation and one sample sounded a lot louder than the rest. I think now that this kind of “bug” should be very common in all libraries and it gives some kind of imperfection one could get from a human drummer too. I haven’t tested intensively in all libraries, but I think if one gets picky, one could find a lot of that kind of variations.
That doesn’t make it a bug. Once would expect tolerable variances in velocity. Otherwise there is greater risk of machine gunning. If you are testing using a single velocity value expecting a constant sound, then you are missing two factors.
The Human Factor: even the best drummers will vary within a certain kick “velocity “ of the beater. If you’re judging sounds by a finished recording, then you are missing a whole bunch of things.
The Machine Factor: you’re not dealing with a single sample or set per velocity. You’re dealing with a round robin set of samples for a given velocity range. Thus, the samples all need to work together within that range. So yes, some things are louder and some are softer. What matters is that they work together within a song.
Having mixed a number of songs with Superior Drummer, I wouldn’t expect the libraries to behave any different.
jord
Korkenwell, I don’t think I am missing something. That what you say was what I commented after the period. That is why I wrote “bug” instead of bug. My comment was due to the fact that one sample was very loud in comparison with the others and I hadn’t noticed such a thing with other pieces. But maybe I will when I work more with the software.
Bear-Faced CowYou are if even using the term “bug” in this case. I hear differences as well, it they aren’t as extreme as you believe. Some of it was is perceptual
jord
KorkenBad choice of word, I give that. No need to get deeper in this thing. I am not missing anything. I know human and machine factor. I am new to SD, but not to drum libraries, although I kind of suck at groove programming.
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