fcifarelli
Hi all,
I can’t find anything in the manual about this. Is there no way to subdivide the note editor into tuplets? I programmed a beat in Ableton Live 10.1 in Live’s Piano Roll with septuplets using an easy workaround, but part of why I wanted SD 3 was to do all of this in SD 3’s note grid so I could easily program articulations by name and not MIDI note.
I tried importing the septuplet beat into SD 3, but as soon as I tried to move a hi-hat hit from one articulation to another, it snapped to the 16th note grid SD 3 was set to.
Can anyone help me out here?
Thanks,
Frank
Hi all,
I can’t find anything in the manual about this. Is there no way to subdivide the note editor into tuplets? I programmed a beat in Ableton Live 10.1 in Live’s Piano Roll with septuplets using an easy workaround, but part of why I wanted SD 3 was to do all of this in SD 3’s note grid so I could easily program articulations by name and not MIDI note.
I tried importing the septuplet beat into SD 3, but as soon as I tried to move a hi-hat hit from one articulation to another, it snapped to the 16th note grid SD 3 was set to.
Can anyone help me out here?
Thanks,
Frank
Magical DogTo be honest I would have paid for sd3 without a midi editor as sd2 didn’t have one and I’m more interested in the sounds and playability from an edrum kit.
Saying that I fully understand your frustration that there has been no reply to this from toontrack. I also think that for anyone using the drum editor then this feature should exist.
Toontrack just want your money !
They don’t give a fuck about their users !
Lazy bastards !
Sd3 is my first and last Toontrack product !
"If you can make it 100%, why not do it !"
-Buddy Rich
Mark KingI disagree as they have improved the edruming experience greatly. I take it then this is the only part of sd3 you want? The rest is just garbage?
sd3 is about great sounds with a huge sample base in real rooms so the drums sound (and feel in a drummers case which I am) like a real drum kit. It’s much easier to do the midi in a DAW and bypass the midi editor. It has its uses as standalone but that’s the only time I would use it. It’s an added extra but not the reason I would buy it.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Magical DogI disagree as they have improved the edruming experience greatly. I take it then this is the only part of sd3 you want? The rest is just garbage?
sd3 is about great sounds with a huge sample base in real rooms so the drums sound (and feel in a drummers case which I am) like a real drum kit. It’s much easier to do the midi in a DAW and bypass the midi editor. It has its uses as standalone but that’s the only time I would use it. It’s an added extra but not the reason I would buy it.
I couldn’t care less about edrumming!
SD3 has pretty good sounds, I wouldn’t say great though!
The rest is total garbage or kid toy stuff at best.
Toontrack should rename it as Superior Garbage Drums!
The grid editor is prehistoric!
Toontrack need to look into Cubase 12 and learn a thing or two about rhythm and what music is all about!
But I guess the majority of their userbase are Metal dorks so we won’t ever see that coming from their half ass lazy coders any time soon!
"If you can make it 100%, why not do it !"
-Buddy Rich
Mark KingI’m not a metal player and I use Cubase 12 pro. Cubase 12 has no drums that rival sd3. You obviously don’t play drums as you don’t know what a drum kit sounds like. I do and sd3 does is the best I’ve heard so far. Nearly all others still don’t sound quite right.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Magical DogI’m not a metal player and I use Cubase 12 pro. Cubase 12 has no drums that rival sd3. You obviously don’t play drums as you don’t know what a drum kit sounds like. I do and sd3 does is the best I’ve heard so far. Nearly all others still don’t sound quite right.
The sound is OK but the GUI and functions suck ass!
No I’m not a drummer, but I do know what a good drumkit sounds like!
What a stupid comment by the way but then again the world is full of idiots so I guess you’re in good company!
"If you can make it 100%, why not do it !"
-Buddy Rich
Mark KingYeah looks like I am in good company. I’m out of here. Can’t cope with you spouting negative untrue rubbish.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Magical DogYeah looks like I am in good company. I’m out of here. Can’t cope with you spouting negative untrue rubbish.
Untrue rubbish ???
It’s a fact, dumbass !
"If you can make it 100%, why not do it !"
-Buddy Rich
fcifarelliHey all,
OP here. I want to stress again that I wrote this as a question to the community and as a subtle feature request to the Toontrack team if no solution could be found.
Again, for the use case of triggering the sounds are second to none. But it’s a red herring to bring that into this discussion. My question was about grids.
That said, we all love music and it’s a bummer that instead of getting answers some are doing the “insult people on the internet” thing. That wasn’t my intention.
I’d appreciate knowing Toontrack’s stance on this as I still haven’t found a solution that doesn’t feel like a workaround.
cheers,
Frank
Magical DogHey all,
OP here. I want to stress again that I wrote this as a question to the community and as a subtle feature request to the Toontrack team if no solution could be found.
Again, for the use case of triggering the sounds are second to none. But it’s a red herring to bring that into this discussion. My question was about grids.
That said, we all love music and it’s a bummer that instead of getting answers some are doing the “insult people on the internet” thing. That wasn’t my intention.
I’d appreciate knowing Toontrack’s stance on this as I still haven’t found a solution that doesn’t feel like a workaround.
cheers,
Frank
If you haven’t understood that Toontrack doesn’t give a shit about what the end users want and need by now, there is no hope!
Toontrack should rename it as “Inferior Drummer” because that is what it is!
Great sounds and the Tap to find but the rest suck ass!
"If you can make it 100%, why not do it !"
-Buddy Rich
fcifarelliThere’s a difference between not understanding and trying to stay constructive. Clearly, it’s time to abandon this thread for several reasons.
I wish you happy music making.
patrick maguireHopefully one day , SD3 will have 2 products.
One for E drummers and one for production.
Thats what keeping this from growing on either side of the market.
Would be great to sell as both but only install whichever version you want.
I do disagree that the Plug in is bad. After using every single drum production software for the past 30 years, SD3 is an AMAZING achievement.
Nothing even comes close to the functionality of SD3. And the sounds are also the best. It takes some knowledge and experience to get good “pro” sounds from any source.
Mac Studio
patrick maguireAs far as the grid editor, i use my DAW 95% of thge time, and if i use the SD3 editor; when something is not available in the SD3 environment i use the DAW midi.
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