Need help with envelop on floor tom

[Boyd Gross II]

I am using SD3 and I have the progressive foundry plugin.  I am using a tom that I really like the tone of, but it rings a lot.  I’m trying to mess with the envelop but when I adjust it, the toms ring our all the same.

I’m certain this is a user error (I’m a noob…).  How should I adjust the envelop to not ring out so much?

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[PietjePuk100]

Not sure if the envelope is gonna solve your challenge. It’s just gonna kill off the sound sooner if you lower the number of ms.

Have you tried to put an eq on it and get rid of the frequencies that cause the ringing?

Btw, which tom are you talking about and are you using it in a preset or is it a vanilla mixer setting?

Cheers,

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[Boyd Gross II]

PietjePuk100 wrote:

Not sure if the envelope is gonna solve your challenge. It’s just gonna kill off the sound sooner if you lower the number of ms.

Have you tried to put an eq on it and get rid of the frequencies that cause the ringing?

Btw, which tom are you talking about and are you using it in a preset or is it a vanilla mixer setting?

I wasn’t sure if the envelope would either 🙁  I was reading around places and they were talking about the envelop.

It’s the 14×16 DW Maple Collector’s Edition.  I have a transient exciter, eq, and something else on there.  It was the Rock Brass preset that I liked.  I then swapped out drum pieces for ones I liked the sound of more for this album.

I tried adding the preset into this reply but it wouldn’t let me 🙁

I am not sure where the ringing occurs frequency wise.

Thank you for your help.

[Boyd Gross II]

Well, I looked again and noticed that on the mixer in SD3, around 70 or so, there was a massive peak that just lingered.  I put a notch there with a fairly narrow Q to keep the rumble down.  It seems to help, but I am sure there is a better way.

[PietjePuk100]

Boyd Gross II wrote:

Well, I looked again and noticed that on the mixer in SD3, around 70 or so, there was a massive peak that just lingered. I put a notch there with a fairly narrow Q to keep the rumble down. It seems to help, but I am sure there is a better way.

I looked at my progressive foundry but couldn’t find the preset you mentioned (Rock Brass, right?). Anyways, I’m far from an expert but using the EQ to get this addressed in the first place would be my way to do it.

You said you had a transient in place. Have you tried to reduce the sustain with that a bit more?

Cheers,

TD50x triggering SD3
SPD-SX triggering SD3
MacBook Pro M1 Pro (32GB/512GB SSD)
DAW: Ableton Live (latest)

[Boyd Gross II]

PietjePuk100 wrote:

I looked at my progressive foundry but couldn’t find the preset you mentioned (Rock Brass, right?). Anyways, I’m far from an expert but using the EQ to get this addressed in the first place would be my way to do it.

You said you had a transient in place. Have you tried to reduce the sustain with that a bit more?

I took the transient out and put another EQ on and cut at that 70 range.  I’m almost wondering if a multiband compressor would do this better.  I have never used one though

[PietjePuk100]

Hi boydgrossi,

Don’t know much about the multiband compressors. However, the ring that you’re experiencing is something you want to address for the entire song and therefore, an EQ seems to be a viable option. Dynamic EQ and (apparently) multiband compressors are used for different purposes (as far as Google could tell me).

Here is a nice article that explains the usage of Dynamic EQ, Multiband compressors & Adaptive EQ: https://www.sonible.com/blog/multiband-compressor-adaptive-dynamic-eq/

Cheers,

TD50x triggering SD3
SPD-SX triggering SD3
MacBook Pro M1 Pro (32GB/512GB SSD)
DAW: Ableton Live (latest)

[Olof Westman]

You can check out my reply here for a description of how to use the Envelope to damp a tom.

https://www.toontrack.com/forums/topic/how-do-you-dampen-the-drum-kit/

Olof Westman - Toontrack
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