FredHHey all
I have a Roland TD17KVX, and just recently bought and installed superior drummer. When I play my kit with the module it triggers at a good volume, but in superior drummer it’s really quiet for some reason. I’ve turned the input gain onto the max on the module too.
If I turn the pad sensitivity up it ruins it for when I just play with the module.
The only way around this at the moment is to just turn up my audio interface volume for when i’m drumming
FredHFixed it with the velocity curves. Holy SHIT this software sounds good. I was hitting stuff at like 30 velocity before lul
Mark KingYou really should set up the triggers sensitivity on the td17 so that it sends 127 when you hit hard. Velocity curves can lose you dynamic range
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
FredHOk so
It seemed like it was fixed but like the user above mentioned – it’s not using the whole dynamic range.
Also, when I use the Superior Drummer 3 original kits, it’s really quiet. I have to turn my headphones wayyy up. I’d love to get a fix for this.
You really should set up the triggers sensitivity on the td17 so that it sends 127 when you hit hard. Velocity curves can lose you dynamic range
- This post was modified 3 years, 8 months ago by Mark King.
Thanks dude but surely when I drum using the module, the levels are going to be wayyy off. The module actually is a good volume.
Mark KingIt’s nothing to do with the module volume. It’s to do with the midi the module sends. If a hard hit is not generating a midi value of 127 then it will be quiet. The module is very forgiving on internal sounds with bad trigger settings but SD3 is very dynamic. I agree the base SD3 library is quiet but can be adjusted.
are you using the td17 as an audio interface? If you are have you increased the gain of the usb input? If not what audio interface are you using?
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
FredHIt’s nothing to do with the module volume. It’s to do with the midi the module sends. If a hard hit is not generating a midi value of 127 then it will be quiet. The module is very forgiving on internal sounds with bad trigger settings but SD3 is very dynamic. I agree the base SD3 library is quiet but can be adjusted.
are you using the td17 as an audio interface? If you are have you increased the gain of the usb input? If not what audio interface are you using?
- This post was modified 3 years, 8 months ago by Mark King.
Thanks dude,
No sorry, what I mean is, if I turn up the pad sensitivity on my kit, the levels will be off for when I play with the module alone (not superior drummer).
I’m using a Steinberg UR22 as my audio interface. So the TD17 in, UR22 out. Have put the USB gain on max and it’s still quiet.
What I mean is, I can open superior drummer and play and crank the output on my interface right up – but then if I play anything else on my PC it’s ear bleeding loud. Maybe I’ll just turn the pad sensitivity up on my TD 17 module and only play with Superior Drummer, not through the module itself.
USB input gain can be the issue. Watch this
cheers
Yeah thank you, have it up full 🙁
Bear-Faced CowSounds like the question in this case is, are you using one of the presets within SD3 or are you using a RAW unprocessed kit? There is a considerable difference in volume and dynamics between the two.
jord
FredHSounds like the question in this case is, are you using one of the presets within SD3 or are you using a RAW unprocessed kit? There is a considerable difference in volume and dynamics between the two.
jord
Hey dude, firstly thank you so much for continuing to help out – i’d love to get this sorted!
I’m not sure if I’m using the presets or not. For example, I was playing the Ludwig Classic kit which is an original kit with SD3. I can’t tell if I’m using a preset or not but there are effects in the mixer so I would assume so.
At the moment I’m just playing with the headphones cranked up and just making sure I turn it down when I do anything else. Maybe it’s just the nature of drums that are hard to record or something – but part of me now wishes I just bought software that was more plug and play!
I’m sure it’ll be worth it once I’ve figured it out. Adjusted the pad sensitivity on the module which has definitely made things snappier.
You know when you’re in the main window of SD3 and there’s the interactive image of the kit, and you can click on the various parts and it previews the sound? Well it sounds great there and is a good volume, it’s just when I play on my E Drums
Bear-Faced CowYou know when you’re in the main window of SD3 and there’s the interactive image of the kit, and you can click on the various parts and it previews the sound? Well it sounds great there and is a good volume, it’s just when I play on my E Drums
This is actually an important clue, as it emphasizes exactly what was stated above regarding the pad sensitivity. What you are hearing in the SD3 window is what it should sound like when you hit on your E-kit hard enough to trigger a velocity of 127.
jord
tommyq94Has anyone resolved this issue?
Im experiencing the same thing with my TD-17.
The kit in SD3 sounds fine when I click the drum parts, but very quiet when I play on my kit.
I tried the method in the video attached above but the issue still persists. I am using the default kits and haven’t bought any of the paid drum kits.
Would really appreciate any help at all!
Mark KingIt’s all mentioned above. Also you don’t say if you are using an audio interface or just the module?
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
tommyq94Hi,
I am using the TD-17KVX hooked up to the audio interface and USB, and have chosen ‘TD-17’ as input in Ableton.
I have done everything in the video attached above to fix this.
So the options are to either Increase sensitivity on the pads on the Module or adjust the velocity curves in SD3?
Will this not compromise the dynamic range of MIDI notes?
Mark KingSo if you record a hard drum hit is it at velocity 127? The comments I made earlier about setting up sensitivity still apply. Also you can turn up sd3. It has an overall volume control as do all the individual drums as well as the mixer section. I certainly do not use sensitivity with my td50x to force the higher velocities at softer hits. I set it so that a normal playing hit I expect to trigger a full volume. I don’t change the velocity curves either as I want a full dynamic range. So as I mentioned earlier as well, the modules are more compressed and forgiving. SD3 acts more like real drums.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
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