Multiple Exports SD3

[Eclectic Choice]

Is it possible to export the same MIDI drum performance over two exports. Say you have more than 16 drum microphones enabled and you want to export each microphone to a separate track. Can you export the first 16 channels and then export the remaining microphone channels in a second export?

 

Or will this not sound right, due to the fact that the round robin samples used in the first export will be different to the second export.

 

This is a question for both exporting internally in SD3 or when summing externally to individual tracks in the DAW.

 

Thanks in advance.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

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[Olof Westman]

It should sound right, given that you really start from exactly the same position in the transport each time.

This is an unusual manouver, however. Mostly, people who could possibly have a need for this would make an internal bounce of the mics rather than of the outputs.

Olof Westman - Toontrack
Coder

[Eclectic Choice]

Thanks for the reply Olof. Good point, I’ll use the internal bouncing option if I need more than 16 outputs.

So if I change say a snare pattern and just want to export the snare mics and any mics that contain snare bleed.  Is this the same as exporting all the mics again?

I’m asking, because I exported the same performance twice, from the exact same transport position and the audio files weren’t identical. I tested this with a null test.

So I was wondering, might a double export mean that the snare bleed mics contain bleed samples of other kit pieces which don’t match the dry samples of those kit pieces exported in the first export.

I know you might be asking, why don’t I just export all the mics again, I probably will. I just wanted to know if this is a possibility?

Thanks

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

[Olof Westman]

I get the feeling that I don’t really understand what you are asking here because I find my answer to be a bit silly.

So, if you change the snare pattern then obviously you are going to change the sound in all the mics that have any sound from the snare and you are going to need to bounce all those mics again.

Do you have to bounce all the other channels as well? Well, that would depend on whether you have any non-linear effects in the mixer, like compressors, gates and distortion boxes.

Olof Westman - Toontrack
Coder

[Eclectic Choice]

Thanks for the reply Olof, I think my question was the one that was a bit silly and unclear. I just went back and did the null test again where I took a drum midi groove and then exported that drum groove twice. Like you stated in the first post they’re identical and they null perfectly. The last time I did an export I must have been exporting through the mixer with non-linear effects.

Basically what I wanted to know is if you do two exports are they identical, because some sampler instrument don’t null perfectly when you export twice, I don’t know if this is due to the randomisation of samples (that they have multiple ones they can choose from for each velocity layer) or non-linear effects, I’m sure you know more about this then I do.

Anyway they null perfectly so I’ve got my answer.

Thanks for the help.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

[Olof Westman]

>>Basically what I wanted to know is if you do two exports are they identical,

Yes, given that you start the transport at exactly the same position. It has to be like that or the internal bounce wouldn’t work.

Olof Westman - Toontrack
Coder

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