Midi map numbers are not the same between presets for added instruments??

[bpjacobsen]

I just spent a good amount of time adding octobans samples to my 8 octoban pads I have in my A/E conversion kit. each pad is assigned about 28 samples and split up using the velocity gates. Works great, they sound pretty darn natural and all that.

However, when I switched to another one of my saved projects and proceeded to add an electronic tom sound (Dx tom from the Alesis Strike module) I ran into a problem where the mappings for a couple of the pads are not the same. So naturally, if I change the midi number in eDrumin, it messes up the other project.

I ended up having to drag midi keys around to get them to match up with eDrumin but why would this even be necessary? Why would the stock library have presets in it that have inconsistent mapping? This is gonna make assigning samples to a lot of drums even more tedius if it keeps changing between presets. Is there not a way to apply the same mappings across all presets? it might not be that big a deal for a basic setup but I have a lot of pads. It’s like the the octobans were mis-matched by one number.

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[John]

bpjacobsen wrote:

Why would the stock library have presets in it that have inconsistent mapping?

Hi,

could you please give an example?
Your subject line mentions added instruments, which would not be the same as stock presets.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[bpjacobsen]

John wrote:

bpjacobsen wrote:

Why would the stock library have presets in it that have inconsistent mapping?

Hi,

could you please give an example?
Your subject line mentions added instruments, which would not be the same as stock presets.

BR,
John

What I mean is if I add say 10 instruments to say Modern Metal High preset then I add the same 10 instruments to another one, say Ludmire or something. I found that the midi numbers were slightly different for the same instrument numbers between the two presets. So for example, 3rd octoban in one preset might be pointing to midi 102. But that same octoban in the other preset (same instrument number) points to 107 or something like that. It seems like the midi numbers should be consistent between presets with regards to the instrument number. The stock instruments have been consistent. Just not the added instruments. In other words instrument 3 in one preset should be the same midi as instrument 3 in the other. no different than tom 1, tom 2, etc which have so far been consistent.

[bpjacobsen]

well, so far, it’s worked out pretty good. I only had to change a few midi notes on one preset so far. just a time consuming process adding these octobans. but overall, very pleased with the results with eDrumin and my samples. The stock libraries really don’t have much options for these. I’m using mostly samples from the Strike Module that have saved. I just wish that there was a copy feature that would allow you to copy a whole stack and paste to another instrument. would make the process soooo much faster. you can’t even select all to load a stack of samples all at once. it’s one by one. So if you got 30+ samples, it takes time to get them all in there. maybe perhaps in the next version? There definitely needs to be a quicker way of getting your multi-layered samples loaded for larger kits. and there should be an automatic feature that splits up the gates evenly. or at least again, copy stack which will also copy the velocity gates. so all you have to do is change the pitch/tone.

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