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Running into an interesting issue with instrument routing in Route Instrument Microphones.
I created a drum track and rendering the separate drum tracks to send to someone to mix.
I’m using all SD3 drum sounds except cymbal 2 and 3, I like the sounds better from the NY Avatar from SD.
In the mixer, I want to use:
OH Cond
AMB Ribbon
AMB Near
AMB Mid
Now I understand that bringing in a cymbal from SD won’t have all the articulations or mics but I’m trying to match the mics as close as possible.
By default, I’m only getting sound out of AMB near and AMB Mid.
Here’s Cymbal1 Route Instrument Microphones (from SD3):
And here’s a NY Avatar for Cymbal3 (from SD) Route Instrument Microphones:
I would think, as I have it set up, the OH mic mapped to the OH Cond mixer channel would give me an equivalent OH mic’ed sound since it leads me to believe that’s an available mic for that cymbal, but I’m not getting anything out of the OH Cond channel when I hit the cymbal.
Also, I can’t seem to get any output to come out of the AMB Ribbon channel either trying different options in the Route Instrument Microphones .
Any thoughts or recommendations how to configure these cymbals to get output on the OH Cond and AMB Ribbon channels using their equivalent available mics?
Or are there recommendation of equivalent SD3 cymbals to the 18″ Sabian HHX Evolution Crash and 19″ Sabian AA Medium Thin Crash?
I’ve been through all the sounds which is why I landed on going back to the NY Avatar library.
Thanks!
The mic/channel routing options are quite complicated. I never truly understand what is going where and why some samples have some assignments.
I eventually get it to a working situation, but geez, its so confusing because different sample have different articulation routed in different ways.
I think a visual diagram of a kit and mics and channels would go a long way. So you could “see” whats going where. ( ala the patching back side of Reason software) the words and the assignment matrix via drop down menus is not the way my brain works.
Mac Studio
There’s nothing complicated about routing the microphones. It’s pretty straightforward. Simply select your channel and ensure that the bleed for that kit piece has been loaded for that channel. I just tested a bunch of Avatar cymbals without issue.
However, it is a misconception to believe that if you are routing to the OH Cond channel, the kit piece is going to all of sudden sound like it was recorded with a condenser microphone. If the sample was recorded using a dynamic microphone, that is how it is going to sound. You also have to remember that the ambient channels will also sound different because of both microphones, studio and recording chain.
jord
“There’s nothing complicated about routing the microphones”
You are still a complicated unpleasant dude.
There are many complicated aspects when you consider the naming of these channels and the differences between certain SDX’s and the set ups, The overheads and the bleed. Keep your goofy dismissals to yourself.
Mac Studio
Maybe its Asperger’s Syndrome or something, but Jordan you often come across very dismissive and arrogant.
You sometimes offer very savvy advice and solutions. Why do you feel the need to be so objectionable and opinionated about issues that are clearly subjective like “what is complicated and whats not?”
It kinda ruins the vibe and the hope that this forum will grow and become a better resource. You chase people away with your arrogance and attitude.
What would Jesus do?
Mac Studio
Oh this is going to be fun… I promise I will enjoy this more than you. Let’s begin with the easiest:
What would Jesus do?
He would look at
You are still a complicated unpleasant dude.
There are many complicated aspects when you consider the naming of these channels and the differences between certain SDX’s and the set ups, The overheads and the bleed. Keep your goofy dismissals to yourself.
And tell you just how much of a hypocrite and manipulative troll you are. Not to mention childish. Next time you want to use such a line in an internet bullying tactic, you should at least educate yourself. But thanks for the laugh.
Let’s start by going “it’s not me… it’s you.” You’re the one who brings forums down and destroys any vibe. So next time you want to devote an entire post to a childish attempt at putting someone down, engage your brain before engaging your fingers to the keyboard. Seriously, my 10-year old granddaughter has more sense, and if you want to be spoken to like I do to her, I will gladly oblige.
Seriously, what is so complicated about this?
In case you haven’t seen this in your “many decades” of self-proclaimed drum programming, this is called a mixer all of the corresponding channels are listed in the Mixer Channels part of the Route Instrument Microphones.
Considering that the OP, which was who was really questioning how to route things and not being a troll, wanted to use a kit piece from Avatar, which was recorded as such:
How can you not expect to see different mixer channels than Galaxy. They are two different studios with different producers, equipment, and microphone setups. That is the entire beauty of all of these SDXs. Seriously, if you are having trouble determining mixer channels, then you perhaps take a course in mixing. There are plenty on PureMix or PLAP. Different SDX’s are recorded by different producers in different studios. So, yes, they are different. There will be different channels because sometimes a compressor was used and other times there are more microphones. Hell, on some SDX’s you even have Stairwells (Hansa) and Chambers (Roots/Blackbird). Learn the differences rather than whine about them.
And please dazzle me on how routing the channels are complicated. What is so complicated about Microphone -> Mixer Channel? Seriously, have you never worked with a real mixing board and a patch bay? At least SD3 works by trying to route the channels of a different library to the ones in the current library it believes is best for that microphone channel so it can make up for your lack of experience in that area. However, if you want to make your own routings and get really creative, you have that power. Again, I’m asking what’s so complicated about sending a microphone channel to a mixer channel?
Do you think you can answer without resorting to any type of trolling or other such childish behaviour?
jord
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