Kick drum seems to be full velocity

[thebaz_1]

I am using a TD-12 to trigger SD3 and with the preset I am using the kick drum using the inner sample seems to be full velocity regardless of how hard the kick is hit. I have tried changing the velocity curve, and turning off compressors, but nothing seems to have any effect. Changing the curve in the TD-12 seems to have not effect either.

What am I missing?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.5
Operating system: Windows 7

8,10,12,14,22, 14sn, mesh head triggered drums.
Paiste cymbals and hi-hats
Roland TD-12, PC, Win7, Digirack 003+
Reaper v6.35, SD3 V3.2.4

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[Brad]

thebaz_1 wrote:

I am using a TD-12 to trigger SD3 and with the preset I am using the kick drum using the inner sample seems to be full velocity regardless of how hard the kick is hit. I have tried changing the velocity curve, and turning off compressors, but nothing seems to have any effect. Changing the curve in the TD-12 seems to have not effect either.

What am I missing?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.5
Operating system: Windows 7

Which kit and kick drum are you using? Does it only happen with the inside microphone?

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[thebaz_1]

Thanks for the reply Brad,

i think it is the Yamaha kit , but the preset with the Pearl 24″ Masters. It seems to be the inside mic more than the outside, and I haven’t quite worked out how to blend the two sounds with triggering, but the stack button only seems to effect the kick sound when you click with the mouse.

The outside mic seems to be more responsive to the dynamics.

I will take down the details when I am in the studio again and report back.

It is something I need to deal with as the kick triggers when it is barely touched resulting in some unwelcome kick placements.

Does the inside mic have less dynamic range, because there seems to be no discernible difference in sound when the kick is played at differing volumes.

8,10,12,14,22, 14sn, mesh head triggered drums.
Paiste cymbals and hi-hats
Roland TD-12, PC, Win7, Digirack 003+
Reaper v6.35, SD3 V3.2.4

[thebaz_1]

The kick drum sample from the inside mic does not seem to be effected at all by dynamics. You can clearly see the midi mote volume changing with differing dynamics when playing the pedal, but the inside mic sound does not change. The outside mic is quite responsive to the point of I would have to change the velocity curve to get any consistency. If I adjust the velocity curve for the inside kick to 0 db and run it at 0 till half way across the box, it will act as a gate till the threshold is crossed but the slightest deviation from 0 and the kick drum sounds at full volume. The harder you hit the pedal the more of the outside mic blends in, but that is the only change. Is the inside mic supposed to be a one dimension sample like this? I would really like to fix this. It is great to suddenly have all my weak kicks consistent, but bad to have extra kick sounds because I breathed on the pedal. 😉

Apart from this, I am absolutely loving SD3 now I am getting past the setup stage and can navigate thought the adjustments quickly and productively, I am getting great sounding drum tracks that are album quality.

Hope some one can help.

8,10,12,14,22, 14sn, mesh head triggered drums.
Paiste cymbals and hi-hats
Roland TD-12, PC, Win7, Digirack 003+
Reaper v6.35, SD3 V3.2.4

[thebaz_1]

ate to be the ones who replies to his own question in his own thread, but I finally found the answer and I hope it will help anyone else who has the same issue.

There is a slider under bass drum velocity in the drum window that is marked “soft hit level”. When I found the “Hit” that was the problem, I turned down the soft hit level and the dynamic range increased. Now I have soft hits when I play soft from the inside mic.

8,10,12,14,22, 14sn, mesh head triggered drums.
Paiste cymbals and hi-hats
Roland TD-12, PC, Win7, Digirack 003+
Reaper v6.35, SD3 V3.2.4

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