huberbauaHello,
let me ask you that, because I am thinking about to get this Raven, but there is not enough sure information if it can control the PlugIn SD3 within Logic Pro X. And the same question is if it works with SD3 als Standalone.
Hope anyone can say me this exactly before I give out much money and stay frustrated at the end.
Klaus from Germany
Bear-Faced CowWhy would anybody want to waste their money on an overgrown tablet that takes up too much space and has only one functionality?
You would get far more mileage out of an iPad or iPad Pro. And in combination with Splashtop, or any other remoting type of app, you can then control both Logic and SD3 on your Wi-Fi.
jord
huberbauaWell, I don’t now much about Splashtop, but what do I get more? In this case I have to control Logic Pro und SD3 within, over my very little screen from my iPad. How could that be better in relationship to a multiplied iPad (9” *3 = 27” this is what you get on surface with a Raven). And I have to by 60 € p. a. for the service.
With all other removing-Apps I have the same result: Little surface (iPad) and all what is big on my monitor gets tiny.
I think my fingers are to big for that (its a joke).
Or did you mean all that in another way which I Cant imagine?
Like to hear from you.
Klaus from Germany
huberbauaAnd next, for example Logic Remote App on iPad, that can not open SD3. I think another Remote-Apps have the same behaviour, don’t they?
I tried OSC Touch, not bad working, where are the batch-commands, Zoom-Functions, and others (which you have on Raven). Nowhere, so for me this is no comparison to the Raven.
Klaus
But I hope I am wrong with all I do and think about this problem, that’s why I try to get help in the Forum Toontrack because there are people who knows much more about all that staff than me.
Bear-Faced CowThe Raven is nothing more than a giant touchsceen monitor. It’s not even a tablet. This means that it will cost you a display port in your Mac. If your Mac is using its supported limit, you would have to sacrifice a display for it. You not only require drivers to use it (it’s not simply plug-and-play), but it’s drivers are mainly geared to the DAW so when it’s all said and done and you quit Logic at the end of the day, you have a glorified monitor (or touch graphic tablet if it even does that much on its own) taking up space. But, hey, if that’s your thing, who am I to sway you?
Well, I don’t now much about Splashtop, but what do I get more? In this case I have to control Logic Pro und SD3 within, over my very little screen from my iPad. How could that be better in relationship to a multiplied iPad (9” *3 = 27” this is what you get on surface with a Raven). And I have to by 60 € p. a. for the service.
SplashTop is free for Wi-Fi. I use all the time. Unless you plan to control SD3 from Canada, you don’t need to pay for Internet access to do what you want to do. You can focus your iPad on a single display and use pinch & zoom to zero in on your controls within SD3. I use a 9″ iPad without issue controlling SD3, UAD plug-ins and a lot more.
I do most of this in my recording area with is out of arm’s reach, which is critical for me since I will be making all of these adjustments in front of a microphone and they have to be made while I am in the recording position. SplashTop is perfect for this.
True, Logic Remote doesn’t open plug-ins. It’s still extremely useful, however. I use that on my iPhone more than my iPad and have it set up to quickly add new tracks and set my recording position, as well as start and stop recording from my recording area, without moving. When I have it running on my iPad, I can multi-touch faders and them simultaneously.
In any of this, I have no fat-fingering issues on a tablet.
And, at the end of the end when I turn off Logic, I have a tablet that I can take with me. If I get any new musical ideas, I can do them in GarageBand on the tablet (which I am sure will change once the transition to ARM is complete) and load it into Logic when I am back on the computer. Not to mention that I use my iPad for a lot of other things these days. It has also come to the point where I anything I can do on my iPad, I can do on my iPhone.
Yes, an iPad may be smaller than the Raven, but it is far more useful. Admittedly, I am more old school when it comes to mixing and mixing boards and prefer a physical control surface rather than something out of a Romulan Warbird.
jord
huberbauaThank you very much for your intensiv reply and the time it costs.
Now I see many things clearer and in the next few days I will try to handle your recommendations and see what comes out.
Sure, I do reply about my experience here so that other members can benefit.
Thank you
huberbauaHello,
first I will say that Splashtop here in Germany gets us only 15 days trial, after that it costs no matter if you are using WLan or other, unfortunately.
But I think I found a very good way now: OSCTouch by http://www.hexler.net
And the best is that you can edit all the labels, controls, … which you see on your iPad.
For example, in one of the presets which you can get as a starting point for your own creative work (LogicTouch.touchosc) the labels for the macros in SD3 (Tab called Software Instrument) are labeled as Param 1 … Param 100.
Now you can change easily for example the Param1 in “3B:Out 3/4 Kick), which in my example means this makro is bind to the mixer, the busses and here Out 3/4 which brings out the Kick In, Kick Out and Kick Sub together.
Very good.
And because you can make 100 macros in SD3, all over DRUMS, GROOVES, MIXER, TRACKER Tabs, I think that will be enough what I need on my iPad, the rest I will do with my MCU Pro.
So, jord, you saved me from giving out money for a big tablet, and in my case it will be enough (after all I am not a sound engineer!), thank you for this.
Klaus from Germany
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