How to keep Hi Hat in a fixed position while playing double bass?

[mattlefevers]

Hello,

I hope this isn’t a redundant question, but I’ve been scouring the forum and the internet at large and am stymied.

I’m triggering SD3 using a Roland TD-11 kit, and it sounds awesome, but I need the hi-hat to stay in a fixed position while I’m using my left foot to play double bass.

In the TD-11’s module there is a “Fixed Hi Hat” setting that accomplishes this easily when using the module’s sounds… but that setting does nothing when triggering SD3. So whatever Roland’s”Fixed Hi Hat” setting is doing, I guess it’s not affecting the MIDI output in a way that Superior can detect?

Is there some way to limit the hi hat to a fixed, closed sound? At practice today we had to literally set a heavy object on the hi hat pedal to force it to stay ‘closed’.

With as many awesome metal kits as SD3 has, I’m sure a billion people out there are cranking double bass stuff on their e-kits, but I can find nothing anywhere about how they are dealing with this.

Thanks!

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[Henrik Ekblom]

So you have each foot on a kick pedal and want the hi-hat to play a closed sound even if you don’t press the hi-hat pedal with your foot?

You can select the hi-hat and unload all articulations except the closed one you want to play. This is done in the Articulations menu on the top right side of the drums tab. Now all hits, with any level of openess on the hi-hat pedal on the hi-hat will play the closed articulation you chose to keep. Will this solve your problem?

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
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[mattlefevers]

I tried unloading all of the open hi-hat articulations, and now when I play the hi-hat with the pedal open, there is just no sound at all.

Do I have to go into E-Kit Settings and somehow re-map all the open hi-hat hits to closed articulations, one by one?

There are thousands of metal drummers using SD3, I have to believe they’re making this work somehow…

[PietjePuk100]

Have you considered to add a second hi-hat to the SD3 drum kit. Only add the closed articulation for that hi-hat and make it match the midi value of a rim of your high tom. This way you can have both the open hi-hat coming from your hi-hat and the closed version coming of the rim of your tom.

Be aware that you can only add assign a specific midi value once. So use a hi-hat articulation that is currently not in use on your hi-hat.

Cheers,

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[Henrik Ekblom]

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Well, that’s was a bad advice from me 🙂

I tried it and noticed that you are right. To fix it, you need to tweak the MIDI input in Settings a bit.

The attached screenshot shows how I did it.

1. When your are on this page in Settings, play the hi-hat on the e-drums. This will select the correct MIDI note which corresponds to a instrument/ articulation. This is shown in the left column.

2. On the right side you select what articulation to play when that e-drum/note is played. I selected “Hi-hat closed edge”, so that articulation will be played.

A side note: you can disable all other articulations but the one you chose to play, since those will occupy unnecessary computer memory.

Reply back here on how this works out for you!

 

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

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Thanked by: mattlefevers

[mattlefevers]

Thanks, Henrik, reassigning the main hi-hat articulation to be ‘closed’ did the trick.

I hadn’t started messing around with reassigning articulations too much because I could see there were dozens of hi-hat articulations of various kinds, and I was afraid I’d have to somehow re-map all of them, but it seemed like just having it ‘learn’ the main one took care of it.

Thank you!

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