Not true… other than the number of busses and outputs, nothing is set in stone in Superior Drummer 3. As well, nothing is hidden or behind the scenes.
And, yes, you can create new routings. It’s all there in the reference manual for the reading.
jord
I understand how it all works, but the practicality and usability of it isn’t good.
I don’t think you do since, by the evidence of your responses, you really don’t understand the metaphor behind the application and how it operates.
Let’s take this one by one:
If I were creating this, I wouldn’t create a ton of unnecessary channels and busses from the getgo.
The mixer channels are part of how it was mic’d up in the studio. The library is indicative of how things were done in the studio. In case you weren’t aware, the basis of this is to provide drums recorded in a good studio by well known producers. This is very much representative of how George Massenburg recorded the core library. Busses are set in the app and they are hidden until needed.
I would allow for those channels and busses to be created as needed.
Again, these are a part of the wiring for that library. However, you can hide whatever you don’t need.
How many drummers do you think are playing in surround sound? Maybe very few e-drums enthusiasts who like it as a novelty.
Hate to tell you this, but drummers are only a part of ToonTrack’s user base. Don’t be myopic on this. There are many engineers using Superior Drummer that will indeed use the surround channels. And not for just surround. Many of them serve as extra ambient channels that are fantastic for mixing.
For the other 99.9% of people playing e-drums, it’s probably just in the way in getting to the things that matter. Same for near, mid, and far ambiences.
Wrong again! Most people here playing e-drums use them as if they are in that studio themselves. Not to mention drum programmers and mixing engineers. Same goes for every other SDX. You seem to be the only one that believes otherwise. You know what they say about assuming.
How many people wants to route a kick mic to a hi-hat channel? Probably almost no one.
Again wrong and is showing a lack of knowledge when it comes to drum mixing. Have you ever recorded and mixed a drum kit? Almost every natural drum mix has kick bleed in both snare and hi-hat channel. You’re the one that wants something completely dry which is pretty much unnatural.
How about an ‘Route instrument microphones’ window that routes to busses instead? That actually is very practical.
Again a lack of understanding. Mic’s go to channels and channels go to busses. Busses have no interface with the outside world. They get their feed from either channel routings or sends (note the plurality). I’d suggest you study some mixing courses as well to get a better understanding.
And why are instrument bleeds in a property box, not in some kind of unified routing window?
The routing window just shows where everything goes. It doesn’t mean it is actually loaded and enabled. The property box for each channel is a much quicker way to enable and disable bleed, not to mention come up with various types of combination that you don’t get in the real world, such as what you are asking.
And one final part, I started with an empty kit and loaded one of the basic kits in the drum part submenu. If you’ll notice, the only bleeds that are loaded is an overhead and one ambient channel. That’s a standard kit hookup.
Disabling these is as simple as selecting the channel and selecting Disable Bleed from all Instruments. In fact, you can select multiple channels and disable them in a single move.
I still maintain that it’s best to consult the manual. There’s lots in there that will address you misunderstandings.
jord
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