High Hat CC Value Jumping Around

[keisentraut]

Using a Roland TD27 VH14D high hat.  When using in my Daw (Ableton), the open/close value is completely fine and follows my foot when nothing else is going on in my project.  As soon as I start playing my tracks and try to play along with the song, the CC value for the open/close is jumping all over the place.  Any idea as to what would cause such a weird issue during playback/recording?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Sonoma (14)

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[Brad]

keisentraut wrote:

Using a Roland TD27 VH14D high hat.  When using in my Daw (Ableton), the open/close value is completely fine and follows my foot when nothing else is going on in my project.  As soon as I start playing my tracks and try to play along with the song, the CC value for the open/close is jumping all over the place.  Any idea as to what would cause such a weird issue during playback/recording?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Sonoma (14)

Are there any other MIDI tracks in the session?
Does happen with a new session with no other tracks?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Sonoma (14)

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[Ilja Körrer]

If there are other Midifiles in the same session, maybe it helps to set the TD27 to another Midichannel?

[keisentraut]

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Well… I figured it out.  Not sure if this is a bug or not.  Within Ableton, you can set a track to either read from your already recorded midi track (Auto) or have it set to “IN” which allows you to ignore your previously recorded midi information.  All that previous stuff is grayed out.   For some reason, when I have that setting set and I’m trying to play over the track, the HH pedal goes nuts.  If I delete the previously recorded midi information or move that midi information to a different midi track, everything works fine.  You just can’t have previously recorded midi information feeding into the SD3 track at all… even with the track setting set to “In” which should ignore that previously recorded midi info.  Note: It does ignore all the midi information for every other drum in SD3.  Only the HH pedal (open/close) goes nuts.  Feature or BUG?!

[John]

Well,
I guess you have to ask Ableton about that.
To me it seems like a bug but I do not see how SD3 could be responsible for what is or isn’t sent to the plug-in from the host.
It’s the host that controls the plug-in, not the other way around.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
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