Hi Hat ducking with snare hit

[John Mallory]

I have a groove with open hi hats hit hard on the quarter note with a snare on the 4th quarter note. Every time the snare hits, the hi hat ducks out to barely audible which destroys the feel I’m going for. The midi velocity is the same for the 4th hi hat in the measure as it is for the other three, but for some reason it behaves as if it has side chain compression on it that is ducking the audio output. How do I resolve this?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.2
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Sounds like you’re driving an output compressor too hard. Hard to tell without more details.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

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[Ken Spence]

Are you drumming this in with a digital kit or are you programming it with your mouse and keyboard. If it is the latter, be careful of your exact positioning of the hit. Only one midi note is aloud at a time.

Eg. If there are two hits @ 12.00:18:87 TC, then the hit with the highest velocity is triggered first.

if you are running superior drummer inside of a DAW, automatic quantization will do this to you. Because it will move that note so that the two are exactly at the same time code. Some, not all, DAW’s have the ability to add “feel” to the midi track. Basically they move the time code of one of the notes either  progresso  or  legato . They also look at the value (not note #) of the midi note to decide which note to move. Yes the note value is 100 and the second note value is 97, 97 gets moved.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.3
Operating system: Windows 10

Cheers Ken
SD 3.3.6 on Windows 10 | Cubase 11
And a new Apple air laptop OS 15.5

[Mark King]

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Sounds like you are using a preset that is doing this. Check what processing is applied in the sd3 mixer.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[patrick maguire]

Run your hat and snare and cymbals out different output channels ( its always helpful) Its the SD3 compression thats doing that. or, just turn off the SD3 compression. Many of the presets are way too compressed.

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[John Mallory]

Thanks to all for your suggestions. I’ve just now had a chance to get this session open again to look into the mixer settings. Sure enough, there was a Dist Comp added to the snare in the preset that was causing the hi hat to duck.  Disabling that resolved the issue.

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