Help with HiHat setup? Can't get a good, clean "open" sound – Yamaha DTX

[Pookerman]

Hello! I have a Yamaha DTX Multi-12 setup (module + HH + BD + CRASH) and for years I enjoyed playing just the stock sounds in the DTX. Not anywhere near the quality of SD3, obviously. Everything set-up easily, and played perfectly. Never had any issues, etc, with the internal sounds/triggers, etc, with the exception of a couple of velocity crossfades.

So I bought SD3, and easily used the stock Yamaha preset to get the basic midi mapping, and changed a couple (CRASH was coming in as BD, etc). The only issue I’ve had…and keep having…is the HiHat setup.

The OPEN high hat sounds jumbled, with the samples all tripping over each other.

I’ve calibrated, re-calibrated, changed my HIHAT hight, opening, etc, and tried everything else I can think of, but cannot (for the life of me) get a clean open sound.

It SEEMS like the “pedal close” keeps registering whenever I hit the HH with my foot off the pedal. In the “drum set view” in SD3 when I have my foot off the HH pedal, and I hit the HH I can see the little pedal going down, too. I also seem to be getting those “ghost” notes in the CC/Mapping window. Every time I hit the open HH I seem to get the CC control signal, too.

Any ideas on how to remedy this? Any help would be much appreciated!!

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[John]

Hi,

 

while you can select and set a Velocity Gate for separate articulations, I think you need to remedy the pedal notes in your module by setting up the cross-talk.

For the CC being sent when you hit the HH; it may be hard to fix while still keeping the feel of it being a real HH. I had the same problem with a Roland VH-11 many years ago – when I hit the HH hard (which I tend to do since I’m not really a drummer) Superior (2) took it as I was moving the pedal, closing the HH.

For me, the only solution was changing the HH hardware; I got myself a Hart Pro ECymbal II, which really made the difference.

You can of course try to experiment with the HH CC mapping on the MIDI In/E-drums settings page.

BR,

John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Pookerman]

I don’t really have to even hit the open HH hard…it seems to register the foot pedal even with the lightest touch.

Again, the DTX unit doesn’t have this issue. So is the issue with the output of the DTX?

Is there a “sensitivity” setting I can change somewhere?

…I’d really hate to have to buy new hardware, gah.

[John]

Well, I’d start with trying to lower the ClosePosi in UTIL5 in your module and also the SplashSens for the unwanted pedal sounds.

Next, I’d play with the CC mapping on the MIDI In/E-drums page.

BR,

John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

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