Groove edits don't hold.

[Acrain]

(Sometimes) when I edit a groove in the grid editor, then copy and paste it back into the song (I might remove some snares or hats that I don’t need so many of in that particular groove), somehow the original groove without my edit(s) returns AND the new groove does too. How can I make it so that my edits remain edited after I make them?

Of course, now I’m trying to recreate them before I post and cannot. So, perhaps others have experienced this and can offer some thoughts? Thanks!

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: Windows 10

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[John]

Hi,

if I edit something in the Groove Editor it stays edited. I am not sure I follow the ‘copy and paste it back into the song’. To be able to edit with the Grid Editor, the groove needs to be on the Song Track, so it’s already there. Or do I misunderstand the workflow?

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Acrain]

As I build a drum track, I drag the grooves I want into the Song Track from the Song Creator. If I want to use a groove I already have in my song, but maybe with some snares removed (for instance), I’d copy the groove and paste it in the song where I want it, then remove the extra snares from that pasted block. From there I might just CTRL+click-drag that edited block to copy and paste it elsewhere and then without any reason I can think of those extra snares reappear in the original block they were removed from (the first pasted block).

Last night I copied and pasted a couple fills and at some point, some of them became void of notes; it said ‘None’ at the top of the block.

Hopefully, I was a better at explaining this time. I do appreciate your help. Thank you. Kirk

[John]

OK,
I have been trying to reproduce but so far I haven’t been able to.
If you find some kind of recipe to repeat this, it would help.

Are you using the standalone or do you use the plug-in in a host/DAW?

 

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Acrain]

I am using it the standalone.

[Acrain]

Back with images in case this helps my plight.

     

Note that there is midi data in the first image. I had copied and pasted those from a different section of the song. I did this yesterday, and while I was working with the file everything was fine. I opened it again today and voila! The midi data in those blocks has disappeared. Any clues?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: Windows 10

[Henrik Ekblom]

Yes, this is a bug we have fixed. The next version is currently being tested and will be released ASAP.

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

One workaround that seems to have worked for me is to keep the the full region aligned with the bars in the track and make sure their length is in multiples of the bar length. Doing this, I haven’t lost any Fill data.

Hope this helps

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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Thanked by: Acrain

[Acrain]

Thank you for that.

[Acrain]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

One workaround that seems to have worked for me is to keep the the full region aligned with the bars in the track and make sure their length is in multiples of the bar length. Doing this, I haven’t lost any Fill data.

Hope this helps

jord

Not sure I follow. Can you dumb it down a bit?

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Picture’s worth a thousand words 😉

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Acrain]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

Picture’s worth a thousand words 😉

jord

Got this part of it: “keep the the full region aligned with the bars in the track“. You lost me though with “make sure their length is in multiples of the bar length“. Sorry

However, sometimes I only need the partial bar (half of the fill in other words) as in my images. Thank you again for taking the time to explain your process.

[Bear-Faced Cow]

The bug appears to be in using a partial bar. By using a full bar, it appears that the bug is not evident.

Copy part of your beat into the first part of the region. Or, cut a piece of your groove and join a copy to the fill to make a complete bar. As long as you are dealing with full bars, you probably won’t encounter this issue.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

• This post was modified 5 years, 8 months ago by Bear-Faced Cow.

[topgooner]

I have the same problem, I have a complete song/drum track and then go into edit it in the grid, deleting cymbal crashes, changing bass drum patterns etc. I save it , but when I open it again, next day the track is back as it was before editing. This happens in stand alone and in my DAW wtf ?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: Windows 10

[Scott]

topgooner wrote:

I have the same problem, I have a complete song/drum track and then go into edit it in the grid, deleting cymbal crashes, changing bass drum patterns etc. I save it , but when I open it again, next day the track is back as it was before editing. This happens in stand alone and in my DAW wtf ?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: Windows 10

Please see Henrik’s post above. It’s a bug that has been found and fixed in the next update that will be released shortly.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Again, how are your regions lined up? I haven’t lost any edits with any regions set up as stated above.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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