DigitalEdwhen in the grid editor can i somehow hear and playback the song i am working on in Logic.
So it plays to the beat i am making in the grid editor?.
ShootieIf you have loaded EZD3 onto one of Logic’s Instrument track’s. Simply let a loop in your Logic Timeline, EZD3 will follow.
Incase you’re not using EZD inside of Logic yet… video here.
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DamirI don’t think toontracks understands what you are asking and they don’t seem to care, I have asked the same thing as it seems very logical that EZD3 should be also able to trigger the DAW if you prefer to work within the grid editor , I totally understand your question and your frustration, the simple answer is NO EZD3 grid editor only plays EZD3 so you will only hear the drums , if you want to hear the DAW in sync as well you have to use the DAW controls this is a dumb limitation of EZD3 that Toontracks has not woken up to yet.
you are forced to use the DAW yet you want to work in the EZD3 Grid editor because it’s supposed to be EAZY, I still can’t believe the dumbness of EZD3 controls and looping, I am waiting for someone with logic in the company to wake up and fix this as at the moment I am simply using EZD3 as a sound module and I do all my editing of drums in the DAWs grid editor for that reason as I’m sick and tired of jumping from one to the other consistently because someone has not thought about having an efficient workflow.
Cheers , a real pissed off user
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Bear-Faced CowThat is not a Toontrack issue. Plug-in cannot control a DAW in that manner. There is nothing stopping you from staying the grid editor while controlling the DAW to start/stop as well as position your play head with a few simple key commands (that you can customize) or control surface. The only one who’s complicating this process is yourself.
jord
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Thanked by: Scott EshlemanBear-Faced CowI have a number of key commands to help with that. Logic (and now EZD3) allow you to customize it that way. In fact, Logic has hundreds of commands that you can assign key commands to in order to speed up and customize your workflow.
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Thanked by: Scott EshlemanDamirAgain you don’t understand, we don’t want EZD3 to follow we want EZD3 to LEAD the DAW, what is so hard to do this , it is expected , I don’t need complicated work arounds because the software has not been designed to work efficiently, I am not asking for much, it is very logical a lot of people just want to work within EZD3 only they don’t want to be consistently bouncing back and forth , the shortcuts option is a cop out it’s not a great solution,
I expect software of the calibre of all the DAWs and Toontrack products in 2022 to work with each other seamlessly we are not living in the dark ages, SO TOONTRACK ARE YOU LISTENING ?
when you name a product EASY , then make it so.
DamirThat is such a crappy response , your response is the reason software never improves, I totally disagree with your way of thinking, there is absolutely no reason why EZD3 can not fully control the DAWs controls and it’s looping function so both appear to be in unison, the only reason it can’t be done is the lack of logical understanding by the designers to why it should be so.
simply put THEY DONT REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE WORK, they have had input from one party’s perspective that had a very narrow minded way of thinking, that’s why we ended up with a great product that satisfies only a few customers that are use to fiddling and tweaking and wasting their time on unnecessary crap.
I purchased this product because it had the word EASY in it and because it had great sounds, but all I got was a clumsy, frustrating slow way of working where nothing works together easily.
Its a bit like picking up a great looking chick and finding out she’s crap in bed 🤪, as you can tell I’m frustrated, and by the way I’m a happily married musician of 40 years with one wife , which now days is like finding a virgin in a brothel.
Come on TOONTRACK you can do better!
Love you drum sounds.
keep up the good work.
Bear-Faced CowSorry, but yours is the crappy response. It is you that doesn’t understand how software works and how DAW‘s work. What part of “The plug-in cannot control the DAW” do you not understand? These things do not happen for many reasons. Quit whining about it.
Perhaps if you learn how a DAW works You would actually get some music done. Many of us have been doing this for years.
There are plenty of ways to move within a DAW while you are still in the grid editor. They have been posted a few times, and yet all you do is whine bitch and complain. Perhaps, listen to what is being told to you rather than trying to act unreasonable and rather childish. Shootie knows his stuff and I have been recording long before computers. Not to mention the others who have chimed in who know.
I think many of us know exactly what EASY means.
Jord
DigitalEdI have only had EZ 3 for a few days. One of the reasions i got it was to use the grid editor.
I expected to be able to edit and play my track all in the editor to make it easy to edit the drum line as i work on it all in EZ.
So i am disapointed all ready and just getting started with it.
This dose seem like a must have feature for any grid editor.
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Thanked by: DamirBear-Faced CowIf you are using it within logic, then logic has control over it. Plain and simple. Your expectations with in a D aW are unrealistic. Yes, you can play your tracks and edit at the same time. I do this all the time in logic. However, you need to realize that logic is the one that controls the play head and not the other way around. As we stated earlier, there are plenty of key commands that you can use within logic to manipulate the play head which will also control EZD3. I highly suggest that you learn them.
jord
ShootieI believe you would have to start hounding your DAW manufacturer first, to allow a plugin to have that type of privilege or permission to tell the DAW what to do. I can’t think of any plugin that can do this. Anyone ever seen this before with any non-Toontrack plugin?
I don’t think the mods here will entertain this type of thread, but I’d love to know if I’m correct or not about why it can’t be.
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BradYou would have to start with the people that publish the protocols/interfaces that plug-ins use, Steinberg for VST, Avid for AAX and Apple for AU. These are the gateways for passing data to and from the DAW. If there isn’t an API call within those protocols for a plug-in to take control of the timeline in a DAW then that’s a hard stop.
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Thanked by: ShootieDamirThanks Brad i appreciate your technical knowledge and response, my main point is i am a music creator first, i don’t need or should have to know how software is constructed or its restrictions, thats the job of companies that are involved in creating this stuff, i am just stating that both the DAW and plugin software writers don’t seem to give a shit about the end users, it is very obvious, i am a musician not a beta tester.
DamirI totally agree with you DigitalEd, and i believe there are a lot more disappointed people that haven’t spoken out yet, when i go to a restaurant i expect to eat high quality food not crap, if i buy EAZY DRUMMER it means i want an easy drumming experience not crappy buggy one that slows me down.
I dont like to waste time, thats why i am not holding back with my feedback i expect better from a high quality sounding product like EZD3.
I only give compliments where they are deserved.
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