Fret buzz

[pispalantimbaland]

Fret buzz is the annoying sound caused by a guitar string rattling/buzzing against a fret wire when the guitar string is being plucked or played.  It’s authentic but EZbass is full of it. I can get rid of it, if I lower the velocity, but then I loose some brightness also. Could you provide tones with less fret buzz?

Also when I use my DAW’s midi track, I can’t adjust velocity in EZB, so it’s annoying with the fret buzz.

EZbass version: 1.0.6
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Graculus]

You can edit velocities within EZbass – your using  a daw so eq is available there to fix frequencies…

[pispalantimbaland]

I don’t want to cut frequencies, I want that rattle away. In real world you would lift the strings higher. Velocity is ok inside the plugin. I only wish you could use it when playing the daw midi.

[Graculus]

Ok – to be honest I’m using EZbass for metal compositions so a clanky  ‘overplayed’ sound suits so I haven’t checked what samples get triggered at different velocities.

im using Logic Pro and I have to say DAW integration is a bit clunky and there are some pretty annoying bugs at the moment – still think it’s a great plugin though!

[LDG]

Pro tools has real time midi adjustments on instrument tracks, maybe try to lower the velocity on the track and see what happens (if using pro tools). Another idea is that isn’t there a way in ezbass to set a maximum velocity in the playback settings like SD3?  if so try set that below the rattle velocity and i wonder if that will cap it .  The higher velocities do trigger string rattle, but thats expected when you hit a string hard, and i’m glad its there if thats desired. I imagine those are samples though, so i doubt a preference will fix it, but velocity does.

Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

[Jeremy]

Hi,

I just bought EZbass and am very surprised how many of the samples have fret buzz. I have all the Toontrack core products and many expansions and this is the first time I can say I’m truly disappointed in the product. I bought it to replace some bass DIs I’d already recorded and am super bummed now due to this issue.

Definitely including some fret buzz adds to the authenticity of the program but the amount of fret buzz on these samples is over the top. It makes it sound really quite unprofessional and budget to me – it sounds like either the instruments weren’t set up properly before sampling particularly with regards to neck relief/bridge action or the person actually playing them when they were being sampled wasn’t taking any care with how they were striking the strings. Neither of these seems likely given Toontrack’s track record with regards to attention to detail. So presumably this was a conscious choice but I think this was a really strange choice to include so many buzzy samples – I don’t think I’ll be able to get a finished performance out of this without random notes ‘jumping out’ due to the round robin nature of the samples, which I think will make me sound like a very amateurish bass player.

EZbass version: 1.1.0
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

[andycamb]

You can edit Ezbass midi in your DAW. Google it or search on the forum.  I put a link to it earlier

EZbass version: 1.1.0
Operating system: Windows 10

[JetX]

Really surprised there is no knob to adjust/reduce/remove fret rattle.  It’s utterly distracting to the song I’m working on.  Can’t imagine why it’s baked in.  Seems very un-Toontrack.  I’d be telling the bass player to tame that noise.  Its making me wary of buying new ebxs now.

EZbass version: 1.1.7
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

[Asa Palmer]

At a very basic level we need, on occasion, to be able to create clean, tight bass parts without fret buss. ToonTrack should not prevent us from doing so with their EzBass application. I find myself continually going back to Trilian to accomplish this.

EZBass v1.1.8
SD3 v3.3.6
EZKeys v2.05
Windows-10Pro (ex Windows-11Pro user)
Nuendo-12.0.70
Roland TD-20X

[Gregory Fey]

I agree that there is too much fret buzz on some of the basses at higher velocities.  And you have to push the velocity up to get much treble out of the instrument.  However I have noticed that the Gospel bass is way better at this than the basses released earlier.

[Boz]

EZ Bass Version 1.1.8

 

I’m afraid I have to agree the amount of samples with fret buzz was so off putting for me I copied the midi on to another track and just used Halion for a bass sound. I don’t want “realistic” bass rattle. Rattle is a little bit like white noise so if you are desperate to have “realistic” rattle Toontrak should make the samples flawless and then have an option to add “realistic rattle” on top of the sample. You can tell from this post I am not happy. Please don’t tell me the answer is to reduce the velocity – I know this, I just don’t want to do that. Thanks for reading my rant.

EZbass version: 1.1.8
Operating system: Windows 10

[Billy 86]

The problem with reducing velocity to mitigate fret buzz is that it also reduces the volume of the played note. Some notes practically disappear.

SD3, EZD, EZ Keys 1&2, EZ Bass. Win10, i9/9900, all SSDs, 64g RAM, Cakewalk, Studio One

[Joe Murphy]

Couldn’t agree more about this. Ridiculous ! I hope Toontrack are listening, we don’t want some long winded way to minimise is, a button to switch it on or off please.

[Joe Murphy]

Perhaps we could start a thread on the EBX that don’t have that unusable guitar buzz noise, whatever you want to call it.

[JetX]

Joe Murphy wrote:

Perhaps we could start a thread on the EBX that don’t have that unusable guitar buzz noise, whatever you want to call it.

That’s a good idea.  Maybe those with noiseless EBX’s could let us know because right now it’s making me hesitate to buy any more.  Gregory Fey noted that the Gospel EBX was better but how much?  Are there still some rattles to contend with?  Here’s hoping Toontrack is listening and thinking of solutions.  I don’t want to have to do note-by-note surgery on tracks.  Maybe it’s realistic in some cases, but so was compounding tape hiss 🙂

[Joe Murphy]

Does anyone from toontrack attempt to answer these queries, or do they just take your cash and run for the hills ? By and large I think the TT products are great but where is support when you need it ? Unless I get some kind of answer, I will have to share this lack of support with my 500,000 followers on social media and tell them what they can expect when they purchase this from TT

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