Forum Search Box Not Showing Up in My Browser – I See A Main Site Search Only

[zenwarlord]

Hi Guys.  I was hoping to use this forum but there are an extensive number of posts here in the SD3 Sub-forum.

I’m hoping someone knows how to do a search limited to the SD3 forum.  I’m visually impaired, and when I try to find the search box for the forum, it seems I’m finding the search for the entire toontrack site, so that when I try to search for forum posts about an SDX, I’m getting promos about SDX from the main Toontrack website pages.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.7
Operating system: Windows 10

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[drumjack52]

There is no specific search box for any of the forums. Just the whole site. Would be great if there was but I don’t think anyone at Toontrack thinks it’s necessary to have one.

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
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PT 2021.6
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[Bear-Faced Cow]

The forum search and site search our unified. By going to the advanced search page, you can select forum posts, and they will show your search results.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[drumjack52]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

The forum search and site search our unified. By going to the advanced search page, you can select forum posts, and they will show your search results.

jord

Where is the advanced search page? There is only one search box with no mention of going to an advanced search page. This is endemic of the less than user friendly ‘features’ of this site.

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Seriously, how unfriendly is this?

Either this or hitting return takes you the advanced search page and on that page you can narrow it down to the forum posts.

Nothing unfriendly about this (or enterprise searches in general)

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Shen G]

It’s unfriendly in that every new user that tries to use it sees the initial results being only products and presume this isn’t the forum search they are looking for

 

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Jedi mind trick don’t work here… recognizing what that button at the bottom of the search does.

The forum is integrated into the site.  It’s not a separate entity. You will get product in the search. Saying that it’s unfriendly based on that without resorting to the advanced section is unfounded.

Not to mention that the proof being in the results that the forum search is working is in watching all of these zombie threads being unearthed and roaming the forums once again.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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[drumjack52]

Jord: I guess you don’t spend much time on other forums like the DUC or Gearspace. The search function on the DUC is way better than what’s here. When at their ‘advanced’ page you have all kinds of ways to specify what you’re looking for from the get-go. If I want to search for a user – I can do that easily. And so on. Also here there’s no way to send a PM to anyone. There’s been many a time I’d like to do that with someone but I can’t. This forum s/w could do with a rewrite.

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Jack, not only do I frequent enough sites with forums, I’ve built and moderated them for far more years than I want to admit. There are only two purposes for any website: selling a product or disseminating information. The difference between those two sites you mentioned and ToonTrack is the fact that their primary purpose is the dissemination of information. I can name you far more audio forums like them. This site’s first purpose is to sell products and then disseminate information. The forum is integrated into the site. Having a universal search engine is common for enterprise class websites whether you wish to believe it or not.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Shen G]

hehe damn, the jedi mind trick worked on me the first time unfortunately.  The only reason I figured it out was it being inexplicable to not have a forum search function at all, so was the only thing to try.  I presumed “View all Results” would be more, less relevant products.

But you do have a good point that it is a shop website first and foremost.  I am more used to tech sites like Anandtech (RIP) with rather separate forums.  Or just forum sites themselves.

Perhaps just a rewording of “View all Results” to “Include Forums” or even “Advanced”

Using google to search the site is also a solution.

Cheers all.

[drumjack52]

Shen G wrote:

hehe damn, the jedi mind trick worked on me the first time unfortunately.  The only reason I figured it out was it being inexplicable to not have a forum search function at all, so was the only thing to try.  I presumed “View all Results” would be more, less relevant products.

But you do have a good point that it is a shop website first and foremost.  I am more used to tech sites like Anandtech (RIP) with rather separate forums.  Or just forum sites themselves.

Perhaps just a rewording of “View all Results” to “Include Forums” or even “Advanced”

Using google to search the site is also a solution.

Cheers all.

Amen. The ‘site’ operator works on both Google and DuckDuckGo as well. Just because this is a shop website first doesn’t excuse not having the basics of having an excellent and functional search facility. There’s no reason this site’s search engine has to be what it is. I call it lazy programming.

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

And I call it a company knowing its business priorities. That’s not lazy programming. Considering the nature of the instruments we are using, I’d hardly classify any of their programming as “lazy”.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[drumjack52]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

And I call it a company knowing its business priorities. That’s not lazy programming. Considering the nature of the instruments we are using, I’d hardly classify any of their programming as “lazy”.

jord

What I’m calling lazy programming is the programming of this website. And that is totally different than the programming of the instruments. Should be totally separate from each other and you’re conflating the two.

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Actually, you’re the one who’s conflating a developer’s technical abilities with the decisions and business objectives of the marketing department within a company. The developer(s) responsible for ensuring that the business objectives of the company are met, whether it is in their applications or the website.. Let’s not pretend they are running the show.

Jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[drumjack52]

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This thread has shown why this forum needs a PM or private message function. Any answers that I would post here would not go over well for the general public. I’m outtta here.

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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[zenwarlord]

Modern search methods incorporate a way to find info even without the searcher knowing precisely what language has been chosen by those who may have answered the searcher’s questions.  On the other end of the scale is a search tool on a forum where the posts are only found based on simplistic logic.  Maybe that latter tool has been the goal. A universal search tool that presents the most possible opportunity to present advertisement material to the potential buyer.

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