Kim MossigeI use this piece of software quite a lot, many hours every day. I use earphones in DAW mainly, and set up everything with correct loudness.. When I play the drums, I NEVER EVER hit 127 in velocity. Selecting drum pads constantly rings 127 velocity directly in to my ear-canal, and I’m beginning to worry about my hearing.
Why is there no option to turn this down? If there is an option, how do I turn it down? Please for the love of everything, let this be possible I beg
Tom ConnerI right click the drums/cymbals when I want to select them and they make no sound, though I don’t think there is a way to select a single articulation silently. You can also pop up a little floating window by holding Ctrl-Shift (Windows) then clicking the drum/cymbal you want and that little window controls velocity based on where you click in it. Last thing, if you never hit velocity 127 you should adjust your pad/trigger sensitivity up since you are limiting your dynamic range. The very hardest hit ever should be 127. It should not be that no hits ever reach 127, or that medium hard hits reach 127. (Some roland pads have an extra 32 velocity they can add to the 127, but you get the idea.)
DWe six piece kit, Roland BT-1s/eDRUMin, RME Fireface interface, JH Audio IEMs w/Fiio Amp, Porter & Davies transducer, Razer 16 laptop, SD3 (State of the Art, Stockholm, Hitmaker, Legacy of Rock, Decades, Death & Darkness, Fields of Rock, Stories)
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drumjack52I use this piece of software quite a lot, many hours every day. I use earphones in DAW mainly, and set up everything with correct loudness.. When I play the drums, I NEVER EVER hit 127 in velocity. Selecting drum pads constantly rings 127 velocity directly in to my ear-canal, and I’m beginning to worry about my hearing.
Why is there no option to turn this down? If there is an option, how do I turn it down? Please for the love of everything, let this be possible I beg
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.4.0
Operating system: Windows 11
When you say you select drum pads are you talking about clicking on a kit piece in the SD3 gui? If so there’s no way to soften things because those hits are all at max velocity so they’re all going to be at the same high level.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
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JohnHi,
as Tom suggests, right-clicking an Instrument, selects it silently and reveals the menu for it. Opening the Articulation drop-down and then clicking the ‘power’ button for an articulation unloads it and selects it silently. Clicking the ‘power’ button to load it again does not produce a sound.
This is a work-around but I agree it would be better to have a preference to be able to toggle kit piece preview on/off when selecting.
Something for the ‘Requests & Feedback’ section, don’t you think?
BR,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
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Thanked by: Scott Eshleman and drumjack52Kim MossigeThank you everyone! I will use this workaround, although it don’t work when having to select stacking samples or scrolling through midi grooves.. I will have to try and figure out a hotkey way to temporarily bring down my drum bus volume.. this is very annoying though.
By the way, what did you mean that 127 should be sometimes hit? Limiting my dynamic range? I think it sounds wildly unnatural when hitting 127. Absolutely all of the midi grooves I buy sounds unnatural. Only when I ever play manually on my kit, does it sound natural. If I am unlucky enough to hit above 100, I bring it down to about 95. So this peaked my interests in why anyone will increase the velocity on their hits?
Mark KingInteresting. What style of music are you doing as I don’t find the higher velocities unnatural. Most session drummers hit the backbeat hard. In fact most rimshot the backbeat as I do.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Kim MossigeInteresting. What style of music are you doing as I don’t find the higher velocities unnatural. Most session drummers hit the backbeat hard. In fact most rimshot the backbeat as I do.
I play everything from Jezz Samba to metal. If I up the velocity on all of my pads it becomes unnatural because I don’t get to have soft hits. The way it’s tuned now feels much more natural because it feels I can have very soft ghost notes at the same time as I can hit hard. If I up the pad sensitivity, THEN it becomes like less dynamic range for me. Every subtle hits feels very loud etc.
Tom ConnerI think it better to have your trigger settings adjusted so they accurately capture the drums. That includes your hardest hit being 127 and the most quiet at 1. Settings like sensitivity and velocity curves need adjusting, and it can take a while to get it dialed in for you. In this way you are capturing the full available expression from the drums. Then separately use audio compression or limiting to make the sound natural to you in the context of the music.
This is the way it works with real acoustic drums as well, a snare hit can be barely audible to deafening, it is up to the audio gear recording the snare drum to make that sound right in the song, and of course how it’s played.
DWe six piece kit, Roland BT-1s/eDRUMin, RME Fireface interface, JH Audio IEMs w/Fiio Amp, Porter & Davies transducer, Razer 16 laptop, SD3 (State of the Art, Stockholm, Hitmaker, Legacy of Rock, Decades, Death & Darkness, Fields of Rock, Stories)
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Thanked by: drumjack52Mark KingAgreed with above. You should be able to have your hardest hits set to 127 and be able to play the softer hits too. If you don’t you are losing the dynamic range. Are you using a lot of compression or a different velocity curve? I don’t use compression when playing the drums from my ekit. I may add it afterwards but not while playing. I also use a velocity curve that gives full soft to hard hits. In my case that’s a linear one.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
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