EZDrummer 3 help please

[Damir]

I have a need to add drums to an audio...

I have a need to add drums to an audio file song without drums.

What is the best way to do this?

I use LogicProX, i have EZD3 as a plugin, but i have not managed to get anywhere fast.

I have imported the audio file to BANDMATE and sucessfully created a basic drum beat which is in sync with the audio file and i can hear both nicely, but when i drag and drop the midi from bandmate to song grid editor to manipulate the midi pattern with precision i cant hear the imported audio file to know what i am doing, i only hear the drum pattern, what am i missing here?

Also if i now drag and drop this midi file from song editor that was in perfect sync in Bandmate and in to my DAW starting both at first bar just like in Bandmate the two are out of sync, so there is a tempo issue, what is going on there? I thought things were going to be really simple.

So issue one is i cant hear my audio track to finetune my song in grid editor.

second issue is i cant sync up my bandmte result in my DAW.

i was hoping EZD3 was going to make this EAZY.

ANY HELP GREATLY APPRECIATED

EZdrummer version: 3.0.2
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)

I have a need to add drums to an audio file song without drums.

What is the best way to do this?

I use LogicProX, i have EZD3 as a plugin, but i have not managed to get anywhere fast.

I have imported the audio file to BANDMATE and sucessfully created a basic drum beat which is in sync with the audio file and i can hear both nicely, but when i drag and drop the midi from bandmate to song grid editor to manipulate the midi pattern with precision i cant hear the imported audio file to know what i am doing, i only hear the drum pattern, what am i missing here?

Also if i now drag and drop this midi file from song editor that was in perfect sync in Bandmate and in to my DAW starting both at first bar just like in Bandmate the two are out of sync, so there is a tempo issue, what is going on there? I thought things were going to be really simple.

So issue one is i cant hear my audio track to finetune my song in grid editor.

second issue is i cant sync up my bandmte result in my DAW.

i was hoping EZD3 was going to make this EAZY.

ANY HELP GREATLY APPRECIATED

EZdrummer version: 3.0.2
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)

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[Damir]

Totally agree with the request of beeing able to record directly to EZD3 like Eazy Bass, it just makes logical sense , Bandmaster is a lot more of a tool than Toontrack has allowed it to be, its sooo frustrating. I bought this product because of it and now Im frustrated by the way it was implemented its arms and legs have not been included.

[Damir]

Thanks Julian i have done this and things are out of sync , the midi to audio relationship in Bandmaster is perfect, if i then drop this midi file to the same audio track in Logic pro X they are out of sync.

This is why i hate add on pluggins and was hoping Easy drummer 3 with its Bandmaster software was going to allow me to complete my need all within its software without a DAW required, it does a great job giving me a perfect bed of drums behind my audio then it becomes useless when i want to use grid editor to fine tune this result and simply export the result.

WHY IS TOONTRACKS FORCING ME TO USE A DAW when i am perfectly happy with the stand alone EZD3 if it was properly designed to be stand alone.

All i want is my audio track to add drums behind it and save without a DAW involved.

Is this asking too much?

Otherwise why would i change from EZD2.

[John]

Damir wrote:

things are out of sync , the midi to audio relationship in Bandmaster is perfect, if i then drop this midi file to the same audio track in Logic pro X they are out of sync.

This doesn’t sound right. If I load the same audio file in Logic and drop the MIDI on the timeline, matching the relationship they have in Bandmate, and Logic’s Tempo is the same as what was entered/analyzed in Bandmate, it’s in sync.

If it’s not working, perhaps you could save a Logic Project with nothing but EZdrummer 3 and the Audio file+MIDI, zip archive and provide a link?

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

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[Julian Vaklinov]

There is one more option, but as usual: we are spending beyond our means as musicians (I can’t speak for anyone other than myself).

Get yourself a looper pedal. Record the audio track you have in mind. Play it on a loop. Run the output of the looper into the Input of the audio interface. If looper BPM and EZ drummer BPM are synced, this should be the end of your issue with this until it is potentially addressed by Toontrack. (however I doubt that will be the case for a good year or so.)

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[Damir]

Thanks Julian, I have a looper pedal but that’s not my need.

[Damir]

Thanks John, I have already done what you suggested, I simply loaded the exact same audio track I used in bandmaster to first track in Logic then I placed the midi file that worked perfectly in sync with this audio track in bandmaster in to the second track of logic but the relationship in Logic was not in sync anymore between the two tracks, I am positive it is probably Logic that’s the reason I just can’t figure it out.

This is my point to why I purchased EZD3 I was hoping to complete my drums to my audio track all within EZD3 and piss off all these complicated DAWS that are wasting my time. If I could complete my drumming midi file in grid editor and use the audio track as a guide I could simply export the perfect completed drums audio/midi to the DAW but my main tool to complete my drums would be EZD3 , at the moment it does sections of a project and involves a DAW, I believe it should allow us to do a whole project within  itself then allow us to export a completed drum track as a full mix with the backing audio track, a full drum mix only, a multitrack drum track only, or a midi drum track.

This then would simplify our workflow using only one tool to do one job which then can be exported to a daw.

This business of little snippets of a whole project combined with a DAW is fine for those getting paid megabucks to perfect something that takes a lot of time but for a solo artist that just wants a great sounding backing drum on his backing tracks that doesn’t technically waste his time EZD3 just falls short with its design , it is so close of being a fantastic fast tool to place drums but falls short because bandmaster and song editor are not working as a team they are trying to work with a DAW first, there’s plenty of software plugins that do that why are you wasting our time, we want tools that save our time.

again thanks for your help John I will try and figure out to why Logic is stuffing me around I just need to stumble on the appropriate settings.

 

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