EZD3 GridEditor Plays Toms Not Programmed

[Victor Kennedy]

Hello,

I’ve been using EZD3 in Logic Pro for some time without problems, but today I’m in the Grid Editor programing a Kick Track, (NOT using Bandmate or Groove library) and when I get to about the half-way point in the song length, one of the Toms suddenly plays a few hits, but I didn’t put them there – they just play, as witnessed when looking in the EZD Mixer, but they do not appear in the Grid Editor, so I can’t even erase them.

I tried closing the song in Logic, then reopening it, but the same thing happens. I also deleted the EZD33 Instrument, then re instigated it, and sam ol’ same ol’…I even erased all the Kik hits I’d entered and started fresh but no luck.

All and any suggestions for a fix appreciated…

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: macOS Sonoma (14)

MacBook Air M3 OSX 14.7.2 | Logic Pro | Toontrack EZDrummer 3 | Tootrack EzBass | M-Audio AIR 192-14 | Schecter, Maton, Fender, DBZ & Epiphone Electric and Acoustic Guitars |

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[Mick Avoidant]

Do you have EZD standalone open at the same time as the Logic file?

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[Victor Kennedy]

Thanks Mick,

No I don’t have standalone open. I’ve actually gone back and created a new song (same song, different Project file) and started from scratch, and so far so good. Maybe it was just a hickup in Logics’ brain? We shall see further down the track.

MacBook Air M3 OSX 14.7.2 | Logic Pro | Toontrack EZDrummer 3 | Tootrack EzBass | M-Audio AIR 192-14 | Schecter, Maton, Fender, DBZ & Epiphone Electric and Acoustic Guitars |

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

You might have had a hidden instrument MIDI track in Logic that was triggering EZ Drummer.  Hard to tell without seeing the project.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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[cyril blanc]

Hello

Do you use the grid editor in Logic?

 

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: macOS Sequoia (15)

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Cyril Blanc

[Victor Kennedy]

Hello Cyril,

For EZD3 I use the Grid Editor inside it. I only use the editor in Logic for non-EzDrummer / EzBass things, such as Piano etc.

MacBook Air M3 OSX 14.7.2 | Logic Pro | Toontrack EZDrummer 3 | Tootrack EzBass | M-Audio AIR 192-14 | Schecter, Maton, Fender, DBZ & Epiphone Electric and Acoustic Guitars |

[cyril blanc]

This may be the problem, I use the grid editor IN Logic

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: macOS Sequoia (15)

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Cyril Blanc

[Mick Avoidant]

Cyril might be onto it. I’d forgotten how I’ve sometimes had notes programmed in my DAW editor and in the EZD window, and had the Follow Host button switched on.

[cyril blanc]

I made a Map Instruments !

It is not perfect

it is available, but I cannot guarantee it 100 %

I have to find somebody to help to check it

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: macOS Sequoia (15)

Musically
Cyril Blanc

• This post was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by cyril blanc.

[Bear-Faced Cow]

The only real way in Logic that this can happen is if you specify set your EZ Drummer to receive MIDI information from another track. I highly doubt this is the case in this particular situation since you would have to set it specifically on the instrument track. It is most likely on the instrument track.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Victor Kennedy]

I agree Bear Face…I’m sure you’d have to specifically assign EZD to be triggered … as I said before, maybe it’s just “one of those things”… like a ghost in the machine.

MacBook Air M3 OSX 14.7.2 | Logic Pro | Toontrack EZDrummer 3 | Tootrack EzBass | M-Audio AIR 192-14 | Schecter, Maton, Fender, DBZ & Epiphone Electric and Acoustic Guitars |

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Ghost perhaps. However, they don’t appear by themselves in Logic. The biggest clues are more in its occurrence. Are you hearing the Toms in the same spot on the timeline? If so, there is a midi region somewhere in your project.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Victor Kennedy]

I’ve ditched the Logic session that had this error, so can’t be sure. It was very early in the session and I was only programing the Kick, but I think there may’ve been a muted Midi track with something on it, which MAY have caused this, but seeing as it was muted, I don’t kow how it could trigger anything.

Anywho, I’ve sorted it out by re-starting that project, and all is well. I don’t understand why some users are saying that it’s better to use the Grid in Logic when programing EZD 3 – I used to do that, (as 99% of the time I prefer writing my own drum tracks) thinking that the Grid Editor in EZD 3 was only for using their Grooves etc, but I watched a Shootie School video and got switched onto the Grid in EZD…far far more versatile than using Logics’ grid editor.

 

MacBook Air M3 OSX 14.7.2 | Logic Pro | Toontrack EZDrummer 3 | Tootrack EzBass | M-Audio AIR 192-14 | Schecter, Maton, Fender, DBZ & Epiphone Electric and Acoustic Guitars |

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Let’s call it for what it is in Logic: Piano Roll. it is fantastic for everything keyboards, but totally convoluted for anything drums. The various tools fall short as far as drums go. There are far better MIDI editing tools suited for drums within Logic, but they fall short of being organic. They are more for drum machine type programming.

Once Superior Drummer 3 was introduced in 2017, I Kissed three Decades of using Logic’s editors for drums and moved everything to the grid editor in SD3 and never looked back. EZ Drummer 3 took things a bit further for me, and I find myself moving back-and-forth between the two. Even when I am working with the Session Players in Logic, I will bring the drum parts into EZ Drummer to do custom editing. The tools are far more expansive and intuitive. Huge. O thanks in doing in Logic again.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[cyril blanc]

I have a lot of synchro problem with this kind of plug-ins this is why I use ESD3 in Logic as a player

I had a mail from the Logic team saying they are working to improve this kind of plug-ins as they do not support yet Flex control

EZdrummer version: 3.1.0
Operating system: macOS Sequoia (15)

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Cyril Blanc

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