EZ Drummer Logic Crashes

[PETEM]

I sent a not to the folks at Toontrack

The story goes …
I FINALLY upgraded my Mac –  my 2010 MacBook Pro has been relieved after years and years of yeoman’s service and hundreds and hundreds of recordings.

I now have a 2015 MBP 2.8 Quad 16 Gigs RAM and SSD

It (Compared to my 2010) is a Rocket Ship!!!

And my system now Catalina OS using the latest and greatest tech…

All good groovy.

BUT

EZ Drummer still crashing in the goofiest places.

Lemme splain

With the old Mac, I had to jump through hoops the way I was recording and mixing with EZD

Freeze tracks REALLY REALLY strategize how and what to record in what order so it doesn’t crash mid-take.

So doing tests with the new set up …

One track of TD 11 charrged to record. NOT recording using EZ D – I like the Roland as a play and listen instrument. If I get a drum set/sound/mix from EZ D later – sure I will use it for pick ups, patches tags etc etc

One track of audio – a test play-along audio MP3 – drummerless track

I record.

All groovy – and tests recording into EZD??? No latency!!!  There was a ton before so I am pretty pumped so far BUT more intricate recordings will tell that tale (I am triggering the EZ Drummer with my TD 11 Rolands, a KB and my Zendrum.  The triggering isn’t the issue.

I do a playback

I stop the track and want to change the drum kits – so far ONLY THE USER KITS DO THIS – I change one …but if I do three … Logic crashes.

Seems it is only when changing the User Kits????

And this is with NOTHING running – no plugins – no EQ, no gain, no reverb ….yada yada !

I would like – like other plug ins – to change the settings as I wish.  I would REALLY, REALLY LOVE to change the settings while the track is playing – do an A : B

I do that all the time with other VSTs?

I do love this software

EZdrummer version: 2.1.8
Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)

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[Olof Hermansson]

Hi,

Could you upload a crash log, please, and maybe some project and presets with which the issue can always be reproduced? It’s fine to do it in the support ticket you opened.

Olof Hermansson - Toontrack
Coder

• This post was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by Olof Hermansson.

[PETEM]

Here ya go
http://themose.ca/Toontrack/

 
Hadn’t opened this project since it crashed. And the project is the “autosaved version.”
 
I have a dozen or so different projects just like this and use them in combination with regular drum practice as well as using BinaB…
 
So, please excuse the drum playing!!!!

Maybe after 4 – 5 passes I record one but not as a general rule? I then have a listen and sometimes play with it in EZ Drummer or Logic drums or Battery  – maybe there is something I played I liked and will save the bar or two for later?
 
This was recorded onto an external MIDI instrument track (V Drums) and then copied and pasted to the EZ Drummer channel strip … I would call this a “bare” set up nothing elaborate added.

This is a complete new set up – Only a day or so old.

[Olof Hermansson]

Thanks. So, to make it crash, you just load different user drum kits, or is it a particular one that makes it crash?

Olof Hermansson - Toontrack
Coder

[PETEM]

Yes all different. At random.  No pattern nor rhyme nor reason for which kits I audition. the particular piece of what I played dictates it?

I have about 30 user kits and change them all the time for recordings … diff kits diff tunings.

[PETEM]

Did one test last night – does not seem to crash when auditioning native kits. But that was not extensive – would need to set the time aside and really do some repeats.

There are a few things I would test but will wait til I hear back

To test:

• Number of user kits
• What native kit I was in before going to user kits (Was it the installed or an add on pack?)
• What buffer size?

And more than likely others … but these are off the top of my head.

 

Right now busy recording…

[Olof Hermansson]

I think it has to do with what kit you switched from and to which one (and also what notes were played at that time). So if it crashes again, try to make a note of the last two kits involved and please upload them (use “Manage in Finder” to see the preset files).

Olof Hermansson - Toontrack
Coder

[PETEM]

Will do!!!

I don’t think it is so much what notes played – I would look at what midi notes are assigned. SO what the kit looks like (How many different instruments from what different EZ drum packs?) and what instruments assigned to what midi note again and from where? My User Kits are generally started from scratch. Not a Pop kit with a different snare. So all over the place.

Hence a question

How elastic, flexible, and friendly are the packs to each other? So a bass from this pack two cymbals there a snare here etc etc

Any reports of that conflict?

 

 

 

[Olof Hermansson]

It usually works fine to mix and match from different expansions, we haven’t had any reports of such problems lately.

The crash log indicated that when the GUI was supposed to animate a drum hit, an instrument suitable for that hit didn’t exist anymore, so I guess the kit switch happened just before that and after the MIDI coming in.

Olof Hermansson - Toontrack
Coder

[PETEM]

Not 100% sure what that means but what I am gathering is that EZ Drummer is not as fluid as some other VSTs – Battery, BFD, Logic instruments and EZ Bass I can just about do anything I want with it. Play a track and change any and all settings

So basically be aware of this?

 

 

 

[Olof Hermansson]

Yeah. We’ll try to fix this for the next update, of course, but it would help if we’d be able to reproduce it to understand exactly why it happens.

Olof Hermansson - Toontrack
Coder

[PETEM]

Lemme see what I can do.

 

[PETEM]

Well that was simple

Files on my server – Named: July 10 2020

http://themose.ca/Toontrack/

 

What I did:

Created a new Logic project

Created a new Software Inst track

Created a new Audio track

Imported an audio file set tempo to the track 190

Record through Vdrums to EZ Drummer

16 bars

Do playback – setting for record and playback Modern Basic kit

While it is playing I switch to my first User Preset. ( trimmed the list to 14)

While the track was playing and I had switched to the first preset I got a system warning (see screenshot in file) Never happened before? As mentioned new faster Mac – no other programs running Buffer set on 512 No other plugins nor effects

I then click the warning restarted the track – which was still on my first preset and using the “arrows” to select the next preset down the list.

Selected # 2 preset  …then #3  preset & then it crashed.

The presets

#1 a modified Yamaha set – all-new Cymbals ( from 4 different packs) and a replacement snare from the Modern PAck)

#2 DX kit fairly stock changed in the mixer only One cymbal swapped from a different pack

#3 Built from scratch Craviotto Mostly from one pack

 

 

That is all I know!!!

 

 

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Thanked by: Olof Hermansson

[Olof Hermansson]

I see the new zip doesn’t contain the presets. Could you make those three preset files available also, please?

Olof Hermansson - Toontrack
Coder

[PETEM]

Presets uploaded the same link

 

[PETEM]

Looks like we have solved it. So far no crashes!!!

 

From Toontrack…

When we tried changing the library via MIDI we encountered a similar issue.

We believe these issues only occur if you change presets using MIDI – “program changes”, via the EZD2 Menu > Settings > MIDI Events > Program Change. Try turning that off to see if it helps.

 

 

EZdrummer version: 2.1.8
Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)

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