Exporting MIDI and Bouncing Messing up Tempo Map

[jschonig]

I am having issues when exporting the drums as MIDI then loading in SD3 and bouncing the files they are not following the Tempo MAP from the track. I have unchecked Follow Host and they seem to get off when there is a Decel in a bar. Any ideas?

Thanks!!

 

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.7
Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

What you are exporting your MIDI with? As well, does your tempo map in SD3 show any changes? You may not have imported your tempo into SD3’s tempo map if not.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[jschonig]

I’m in Logic X recording in and then exporting the MIDI. Then I am opening up SD3 (within logic) and pasting the MIDI into the Song Map. It imports my TD50 settings and Tempo Map. When I bounce the stems, the section where there is a DECEL it gets off…

[Bear-Faced Cow]

What do you mean by “it gets off”? Is it not decelerating?

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[John]

Hi,

can you save the Logic Project and/or the MIDI file plus SD3 Project file, ZIP Archive and attach to a post here?

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[jschonig]

Its too big and won’t let me post – SD3 file and midi file here but not sure that is enough. I can put it in a dropbox also let me know

thanks for your help

jared

[jschonig]

oy and won’t let me post SD3 file for security reasons

[John]

Just ZIP Archive it

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[jschonig]

OK SD3 file and MIDI file here.

[John]

Well,

something is definitely funky with the Tempo in that MIDI file.

When I Import the MIDI to Logic and include the Tempo, there is no Tempo before Bar 69.
If I just import the MIDI to SD3, SD3 ramps down from 120 until the first Tempo event at Bar 69.
If I open the SD3 Project, the Tempo Track looks exactly like in Logic, cut off until Bar 69.
Please make sure your Logic Tempo track and SD3 Tempo Track both have correct Tempo events in the beginning as well.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[jschonig]

Very odd- attached is the screen shots of the tempo map in the logic file…

[Bear-Faced Cow]

So far I see two potential issues:

1. Your drum MIDI technically starts at Bar 8 (your controller information in the region might be ignored on export) and your tempo marker is at Bar 1. Hence no beginning tempo marker in your export.
2. Your change in tempo is a ramp. Logic handles ramped changes in tempo internally. As a MIDI export the only way it can interpret that ramp is with a series of tempo changes, which explains John’s screenshots. Thus, there will be a very rough resolution to your tempo changes, and you will hear it in your drum parts. If you want to smooth it you, you will have to do some work in SD3’s tempo map, by recreating the ramp manually if you want your tempo change in SD3 to be just as smooth. At least your ramp appears to be linear. You would have a harder time if you had used a more logarithmic ramp in Logic.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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