optofonikI want to create a unified resource environment (for want of a better phrase) wherein all my samples, MIDI files, and presets reside on the same HD independent of the operating system HD. If I have to do yet another clean reinstall of Win7 x64 I want to avoid reinstalling MIDI files and presets not to mention wanting to avoid the possibility of losing them if something horrible happens to the OS drive.
As it is right now the various products I own end up installing components all over the map. MIDI file packs want to install in the x86 folder and in my documents folder, x64 components default to the x86 folder and I have to change the directory during install. It makes no sense. None. It’s as if there are several different people at Toontrack coding the installers; all with different ideas about where things should be installed.
Presets are installed in “My Documents”. Who uses that folder for their DAW presets??? To be fair Steinberg installs Cubase 6 VST3 presets in the My Documents folder as well but does Toontrack really want to follow Steinberg’s lead in anything? Would anyone? Really?
I have 13 product to install but I am stopping my installation till I can get a response. It shouldn’t take an entire day to install everything in a logical manner, should it? Everything that isn’t part of the program itself; samples, presets, and MIDI files, should default to the same drive, independent of the program and OS drive.
I’m so frustrated right now. Thanks for any insight.
Mick
PS: Why do these two folders: EXHOME and EZDrummer have the same contents???
"Let us wander through a great modern city with our ears more attentive than our eyes..."
Luigi Russolo, 1913
optofonikOkay, so I finished installing and I have to say it is not an easy process. Everything is on a separate HD including MIDI file. Unfortunately, any “preset is installed with no indication as to where.
"Let us wander through a great modern city with our ears more attentive than our eyes..."
Luigi Russolo, 1913
optofonikI also had to move my MIDI expansion pack files from the OS drive to my “Samples” drive because there is no option for a custom install. Now, inside the “Midi” folder created by the installer there are almost 1813 folders with cryptic names, most of them empty. My “Songwtiter’s drumpack has a “200@_BALLAD” folder. I thpught it would have some great straight ahead slower tempo beats but it’s empty. None of this makes any sense to me.
"Let us wander through a great modern city with our ears more attentive than our eyes..."
Luigi Russolo, 1913
JohnHi,
I took it from your 2nd post that you had read instructions and Custom installed properly to non-system drive but now I get the feeling that you have moved things instead.
If so, you will break any updaters, for core package and/or expansions and MIDI packs.
If you had chosen to ‘Custom’ install when you ran the EZdrummer core installation, you could point it to a location where all your EZdrummer related and Toontrack MIDI stuff would end up automatically and any updaters would work as intended. Hopefully, this is what you have done and I misinterpret.
The structure of the MIDI packs may be confusing to look at in the Explorer but some folders are headers for the Toontrack plugins and therefore have no content.
Best Regards,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
EXcellentI tried the custom install and neither EZdrummer not Superior 2 can find their sounds. So I re-installed and let the installer pick where to put things. It still doesn’t work. Just look at this support website. Everyone is confused! Why do you make it so damned complicated. Your sounds are good but your install is really really bad. That means your sounds suck because I cannot use them. Everything in one place please!!
optofonik“If so, you will break any updaters”
I don’t understand.
"Let us wander through a great modern city with our ears more attentive than our eyes..."
Luigi Russolo, 1913
John If you move things manually after installation, how will the updater know where you have moved it?
Quickly re-reading your previous posts, I also want to point out that certain parts are shared between 32-bit and 64-bit versions and therefore need to reside where the 32-bit versions can access them (x86).
There is absolutely no “accidental” installation layout.
When you first install a Toontrack plugin in Windows, you are presented with the option to Custom install, should you wish to have your EZHOME folder elsewhere than the Default location.
This will install all following EZX:s and Toontrack MIDI to the Custom location.
BR,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
optofonikJohn, thanks. I think I installed it correctly but I did manually move the MIDI files to my sample HD. How much of a problem will this create and could I copy the files back to their default location to rectify the situation. MIDI files are small so it seems more expedient to have two MIDI file folders than to reinstall everything.
"Let us wander through a great modern city with our ears more attentive than our eyes..."
Luigi Russolo, 1913
JuicyI do understand what you want to achieve,but as John has pointed out.
The way it works for EZ ( all on an external) just put EZX’s on your system drive first then do sound-mover which will move them
but leave the original location as an alias, this way the the original location serves its intended purpose and updates will all work out and you wont break the way it was intended to work. Don’t ask me but that’s the gist of what i was told in a thread a few months ago.
I did ask the obvious question-why EZ and SD2 are different in this regard, the story goes, they are different and will remain this way .
ScottIt was designed to allow Mac users to move their EZdrummer libraries to an external hard drive after they were initially installed to the system drive.
PC users could always choose a Custom install location for EZdrummer (unlike Macs) and all subsequent EZX/MIDI installed would end up in the Custom location.
…or so I’ve been told. I use PCs and never had to use Soundmover.
Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
JohnHow much of a problem will this create and could I copy the files back to their default location to rectify the situation.
This *should* work. If they are in the wrong place, an update of the MIDI files will only seem like it worked.
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
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