Easy way to copy midi settings without starting over?

[bpjacobsen]

OK, so I have gotten pretty used to how to map my edrums.

When I’m trying to figure out now is, let’s say I have my default kit. And now I switch to another preset and now all the velocity and other midi settings are reset. I know I can replace drums with different drums instead of pulling in the presets from the library, but what if I want to have all of the velocity and other articulations apply to all preset kits? Is that possible? Seems like either way, you are either switching to a preset and re-doing all the midi settings, or replacing all the drums with different drums and saving as another project. Is there not a way to universally apply your midi settings across the board?

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[drumjack52]

Are you asking if you can have the same MIDI mapping and velocity in your custom map when you change drum kit presets and have that as your MIDI mapping etc. without issue and extra work? Did you save your custom mapping as a preset in the MIDI in/edrums tab? I customized the GM MIDI preset and that’s my default for everything – I can change drum kits presets without issue. At worst you may have to switch to your customized preset when you change drum kit presets.

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Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
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[bpjacobsen]

drumjack52 wrote:

Are you asking if you can have the same MIDI mapping and velocity in your custom map when you change drum kit presets and have that as your MIDI mapping etc. without issue and extra work? Did you save your custom mapping as a preset in the MIDI in/edrums tab? I customized the GM MIDI preset and that’s my default for everything – I can change drum kits presets without issue. At worst you may have to switch to your customized preset when you change drum kit presets.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

I’m still new to this whole process so forgive the follow up questions. Can you please provide steps for how you did this? So it sounds like you are saying I can indeed save my mappings/velocity and still be able to switch to other presets without having to do them again? What are the steps for this? Still trying to get used to navigation and all.

[drumjack52]

bpjacobsen wrote:

drumjack52 wrote:

Are you asking if you can have the same MIDI mapping and velocity in your custom map when you change drum kit presets and have that as your MIDI mapping etc. without issue and extra work? Did you save your custom mapping as a preset in the MIDI in/edrums tab? I customized the GM MIDI preset and that’s my default for everything – I can change drum kits presets without issue. At worst you may have to switch to your customized preset when you change drum kit presets.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

I’m still new to this whole process so forgive the follow up questions. Can you please provide steps for how you did this? So it sounds like you are saying I can indeed save my mappings/velocity and still be able to switch to other presets without having to do them again? What are the steps for this? Still trying to get used to navigation and all.

Go to the MIDI in/edrums page, select a preset and customize it to your liking. Save it under a new name and use that preset when you need it. You’re missing a point in the question I asked – are you trying to use different drum kit presets?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[bpjacobsen]

drumjack52 wrote:

bpjacobsen wrote:

drumjack52 wrote:

Are you asking if you can have the same MIDI mapping and velocity in your custom map when you change drum kit presets and have that as your MIDI mapping etc. without issue and extra work? Did you save your custom mapping as a preset in the MIDI in/edrums tab? I customized the GM MIDI preset and that’s my default for everything – I can change drum kits presets without issue. At worst you may have to switch to your customized preset when you change drum kit presets.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

I’m still new to this whole process so forgive the follow up questions. Can you please provide steps for how you did this? So it sounds like you are saying I can indeed save my mappings/velocity and still be able to switch to other presets without having to do them again? What are the steps for this? Still trying to get used to navigation and all.

Go to the MIDI in/edrums page, select a preset and customize it to your liking. Save it under a new name and use that preset when you need it. You’re missing a point in the question I asked – are you trying to use different drum kit presets?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

I was asking if midi settings could be saved universally. So I have my velocity etc. saved how I like it. Now I load another preset and they all revert back to defaults. I guess that’s why they call them presets. lol but to me, the velocity will pretty much be the same for every kit/preset. I guess what I”m really asking is if there is a way to save the velocity/mid settings as a default for all presets? Or am I pretty much stuck with having to re-do the velocity etc settings everytime I switch to another preset?

Also, how do I turn off ambience? Seems like a lot of the presets have in my opinion, too much ambience. I like a more tight, less echoey sound. Could not find in mixer where to adjust ambience.

[Mark King]

When you load a preset you can choose the option of sounds only. Have you tried this? I’m not able to look to give you the exact details but look up loading a preset in the manual.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[John]

bpjacobsen wrote:

I was asking if midi settings could be saved universally.

Hi,

that is what happens when you save your own MIDI In Preset on the MIDI In/E-drums settings page and it is Active. If you switch to another Preset, it should still be Active.

If you change Velocity Curves and MIDI Mapping settings in the property boxes on the DRUMS page, they will be wiped upon loading another preset.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

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[bpjacobsen]

John wrote:

bpjacobsen wrote:

I was asking if midi settings could be saved universally.

Hi,

that is what happens when you save your own MIDI In Preset on the MIDI In/E-drums settings page and it is Active. If you switch to another Preset, it should still be Active.

If you change Velocity Curves and MIDI Mapping settings in the property boxes on the DRUMS page, they will be wiped upon loading another preset.

BR,
John

OK, so along similar lines, I finally figured out how to get the ride bell to register on the proper pad/the bell on my set. but for some reason, it keeps reverting back to the tom next time I load it again I saved it both as the default and  save as. The cowbell seems to hold but not the ride bell. What am I doing wrong in the save process?

[Mark King]

Are you saving the preset on the edrum page? Are you loading presets or projects?
The edrum page where you can select your drum module type is where you should save your midi preset and where changes should be made to mappings (definitely not on the main page) . When loading a preset on the main page the mapping will hold if you change kits but not all kits are the same. I have around 5 edrum presets for different kits. Loading a project loads everything. You can load a project with the wrong napping but then you have to load your edrum preset in the edrum page.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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[John]

…adding a few screen shots to emphasise the importance of doing the changes in the right place when customising for your E-drumming and where to save your MIDI Preset and make sure it is active

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

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Thanked by: drumjack52

[bpjacobsen]

John wrote:

…adding a few screen shots to emphasise the importance of doing the changes in the right place when customising for your E-drumming and where to save your MIDI Preset and make sure it is active

follow up question:

what do you recommend for the velocity curves? Like I know the default linear does not seem to work for me as it is too sensitive. I feel like I am having to squish it down and right to get the response to be a bit more realistic though I can’t say it’s completely satisfactory. However, I’m sorta holding off spending too much time until I get the edrumin boxes since the triggering should be way better.

[drumjack52]

You’re going to have to decide for yourself how to set the velocity curves. There’s no right or wrong but what works with your ekit triggers and your playing style.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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