Chris ThomasHi there will there be any updates in the manual regarding the new DTX Pro settings ? It looks like there is a customisable slider for zone position. I’m using a 15.5 pcy cymbal and having a problem setting it up , you can control the zones from bell outwards but then the edge often triggers zone 3 bell . Also hard to keep the options for each zone locked in without them resetting.
There is also a problem with the hihat , I’m using a hh65 pedal and whereas it worked fine with the Yamaha 502 and 700 settings with the dtx pro setting it’s triggering a Tom in one of the open settings , I think open 1 .
José SanguinoSetting up an e-drum kit to work just fine with your VSTi Drum instrument (be it SD3, or any other) is always a dreadful process. I once helped a friend set up his old Yamaha DTX to work fine with his VSTi drum kit, and we had a tough time doing so from within the VSTi Drum Instrument input setup. We created our own “input-to-output” preset by choosing the MIDI notes sent by his e-drum kit, and assigning them to the VSTi drum sound we were supposed to get. We saved that preset and that way he was able to record his drums. It was nice, and with that MIDI input preset loaded, even when recording his MIDI beats from his e-drum kit, his DAW recorded the right notes for his VSTi drum kit. Tedious process, but it worked.
But his e-drum kit sent very few notes, and it was relatively easy to assign each pad to a different drum sound within the VSTi with the MIDI input settings (we were even able to set up four different hi-hat opening/closed levels, and even got it right to get the hi-hat pedal to react to quick stomp/release hits and choose a “hi-hat pedal splash” sound out of that technique.
But I’m afraid I’ve never set up a zone-position Drum Kit. I guess that depending on the position you hit on your drum pad / cymbal pad, you’re supposed to get a different sound, and that means a different MIDI note on each zone. I’d refer to your DTX Pro manual and find out which MIDI notes you are sending when you hit the different areas on your drum pads/cymbals; then create my own MIDI mapping for that. Even if the manual doesn’t tell you which MIDI note number you get from different areas, you could find it out yourself just by playing and recording some MIDI on a particular pad / cymbal. Just make sure you make a note of which type of hits you have used, and then check which MIDI note numbers have been recorded when hitting the pad in a particular area. Then create your own MIDI mapping.
There’s another way to do this (I’d even say it’s more useful), but you have to use Cockos Reaper. Reaper has a “JS plugin” (Reaper’s fx format) called “Midi Map to Key v2”. That plug-in must be loaded up as a MIDI input FX, then you must load a Drum Map file in it (The drum map file in Reaper it’s just a .txt file with a list of your MIDI note numbers (and CC controllers) displayed in two columns. If you take a look at the “Default Drum map”, MIDI note 1 in the left column is set to MIDI note 1 on the right column. That means that when your e-drum kit plays MIDI note 1, you record MIDI note one on your track, and the sound for MIDI note 1 in your Drum VSTi is played. But you can swap the output note numbers and, say, choose MIDI note 35 on the left column, and MIDI note 36 on the right column, and save that drum map file (its just a .txt file, remember). If you load that modified drum map and load JS Midi Map to Keyv2 and use that Drum map, when you hit MIDI note 35 in your Drum kit (normally that would be a kick drum articulation), Reaper will record it as MIDI note 36 instead (which is also a kick drum articulation, but usually a different one).
So, by using that JS MIDI Map to Key V2 plug-in, you can have a series of drum map .txt files so that any MIDI note your DTX Pro sends, is re-directed to a different MIDI note both when playing or recording your MIDI beats. The recorded MIDI notes will be the ones appropriate for your VSTi Drum instrument. You can even make different Drum maps for different kits, different playing styles, etc. You just have to know which MIDI notes your DTX pro sends from each drum pad/cymbal areas, and re-direct those to the MIDI note number of your choice. But then again, that’s only in Cockos Reaper. (Reaper is also available for MacOS, and they normally keep up with the different versions they release (Big Sur is supported, I think).
Here’s a link to a Reaper Tutorial on re-mapping MIDI notes with JS MIDI Map to Key V2. It’s only about 11 minutes long:
Andrew PayneI have a Yamaha DTX900 module and I just set up a user drum kit that I call “superior” for use with SD3. I just adjust the MIDI notes output by the module on this user kit to suit SD3 and my setup (pads/cymbals) as I use 38 separate triggers (not including hi hat). Then I remap if required in SD3 for any other SDX libraries so the one “superior” user kit on my module works for all kits/libraries I have set up in SD3. I also set up my own drum map in my DAW (Cubase) so it shows each of the 38 “instruments” I can trigger.
Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Windows 11, Cubase Pro 14, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat. PDP Maple acoustic kit for live playing.
Chris ThomasThank you very much for the help . To be honest the DTX Pro worked quite well under the Yamaha 700 setting . I have now got it working perfectly (with the new DTX Pro setting ) and the solution was actually really simple : make sure module is set to default kit number 1 ..absolute maple I think . Now everything triggers as it should with all correct voices and no fiddling with the ride necessary .
BlueMistralYou can remap the midi notes very easily using the learn option, why so much drama?
Chris ThomasIts a nuisance remapping hi hat positions , and also multi ride zones , and to do this every time you change library is an unwanted chore .
It’s obviously better if the defaults work properly . But maybe not everyone feels like that : there are possibly some people ( may be the sort of person that decides to make pointless and unhelpful comments when a problem has already been solved ) who enjoy remapping their midi multiple times instead of doing something more productive.
Chris ThomasSadly the problem wasn’t solved , settings got switched back to DTX 700 which was how it all appeared ok . Switched back to DTX Pro and there are still problems with Ride , Hi Hat etc. , even after changing module to no 1 Absolute kit . Apparently there are a few bugs affecting some e kit presets within SD3 ( The new DTX Pro one included ) that are due for a fix .
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