Drumtracker Cymbals

[Josh_ONeill]

Hey Guys,

I have recently purchased drum tracker, I have so far managed to replace kick and snare on a track but I would now like to also replace the cymbals.
The engineer who recorded the drums didn’t close mic the Hi-Hat so it isn’t very clear in the mix. The only mics to capture the Hi-hat, crash and snare are the overhead mics; which weren’t recorded very well. When I decrease the parameters (two horizontal red lines) in drum tracker to avoid picking up the larger transients of the kick and snare, for some reason it only picks up the larger transients of the kick and snare (which is the complete opposite of what I want). I have also tried to use the Edit preset to help try and pick up the Hi-hat but it doesn’t seem to work. I think it’s because there is too much bleed from the other drums as I am mapping overheads.
Is there any way I can map the Hi-Hat and cymbals by using the overhead recordings?
Is there a way of manually tabbing to the next transient also? without having to use the mouse? As I couldn’t do it automatically I thought I would be able to easily tab to the next beat. I’ve watched the numerous tutorials online but none of them seem to cover this issue.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Kind Regards,
Josh

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[Nathan]

Personally, I run through the overheads and manually place them on the overhead timeline in Drumtracker.

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[Juicy]

Also,
Have you tried to make a copy of the O/Head and EQ/Filter before setting Drum trackers settings, you may also want to reduce or silence the main offending snare or kicks .
Just a thought.

[Josh_ONeill]

Hi Planetnine

Thanks for your feedback, when you manually place them on the overhead timeline, do you manually click on each hit or can you use shortcut keys to tab to the next hit?
Do you have any shortcuts or tips to speed up the manual process?

Thanks,
Josh

[Nathan]

When I’m in DT I use the mouse to manually select the point and then add an event. If it hasn’t detected the cymbal hit and placed a hitpoint already, then there is no way for it to know where to “tab” to.

I have a Shuttle programmed to use some of the shortcut keys in DT to make the workflow a little more fluid, but there aren’t any go left/right, swap between play cursor & edit cursor keys, so mouse it is. Once the hitpoints are detected, I can “tab” between them by shuttle, and I can use the devices various buttons to play/pause, nudge hitpoints or alter their strength. There are key and mouse-modifiers for most of that -I try to assign stuff to controllers to spped the flow.

I find it easier sometimes to do that in my DAW (I use REAPER). I have the Shuttle set to scrub backwards and forwards and either use a mouse or a MIDI device like drum pads or keyboard to actually enter whichever cymbal it is (or I prefer it to be).

You just have to decide which is better for your workflow -automatic or manual in DT or MIDI editor in your DAW. Get and use controllers (I use the Shuttle Pro2 and the X-Keys Pro for keys) and just work it out. I try not to replace everything in a track and don’t always touch the OH channels, so I don’t always end up replacing all cymbals. Depends on you job and what you want to do.

I would like to have more keys and better control of DT -there could be improvements.

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