Dragging SD3 (EXBass & EZKeys) grooves to Logic midi track — crashes Logic

[Kirtland Peterson]

 

Aloha All,

For the “first time,” dragging grooves from SD3, EZBass and EZKeys to a Logic Pro MIDI track has caused Logic Pro to crash.

Over and over again.

Dr. Google and Dr. A.I. suggested, among other fixes, having Logic Pro open in Rosetta.

This seems to work.

(As I learned: go2 Applications; option-click on Logic; Get Info; look carefully and you’ll see an “Open in Rosetta” option to select)

Which begs the questions…

• Are Toontrack products (SD3, EZKeys, EZBass) not Silicon adapted?
• Do macOS updates make dragging grooves to Logic midi tracks problematic?
• Is Toontrack working on this?

Curious.

For the time being, the Rosetta Solution seems to be working.

When the Rosetta option disappears — in 2027 I gather — I hope Toontrack products will be ready.

Onwards!

Cat

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.4.4
Operating system: macOS Tahoe (26)

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[Brad]

I use SD3, EZDrummer 3, EZKeys and EZBass native silicon on Mac Ultra and have for quite some time. However I don’t use Logic Pro. Fender Studio Pro 8, formerly Presonus Studio One works fine with D&D to the song timeline. All this to say TT software is silicon native, I know there has been some performance issues introduced by Apple in a recent update.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.4.4
Operating system: macOS Tahoe (26)

Mac Studio M1 Ultra, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 13.x-15.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Fender Studio Pro 8, Presonus Studio One Pro 7
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

• This post was modified 14 hours, 48 minutes ago by Brad.

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[drumjack52]

Can you open SD3 in standalone without using Rosetta? If so then you have your answer and it becomes  the interaction of SD3 and Logic. Being that you can open SD3 in Logic without using Rosetta that suggests it’s not SD3 as such.

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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[John]

Kirtland Peterson wrote:

Are Toontrack products (SD3, EZKeys, EZBass) not Silicon adapted? Do macOS updates make dragging grooves to Logic midi tracks problematic? Is Toontrack working on this?

Hi, all current Toontrack products (as in not discontinued) are indeed silicon Native and have been for some time, which means you do not need to run your host in Rosetta mode.
I have not seen this myself and seen no other reports of this, so it seems to happen locally on your computer.

Can you open the SD3 standalone and drag MIDI to the Desktop/Finder?

You can always try Reset & Rescan in the Logic Plug-In Manager and/or clearing your Audio Units cache.

Since you can open the plug-ins in Logic and the crash happens when you drag MIDI from plug-in to Logic, I would guess it has something to do with damaged permissions.
Perhaps First Aid on your drive?

Can you salvage any crash reports/logs?

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

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