DAW no longer able to insert new SD3 softsynths but plays existing ones fine

[watelessness]

i recently added a couple new libraries and if i remember correctly, i upgraded SD3 to 3.3.0 build 33063, 64-bit vst 3.  Cakewalk is no longer able to insert new SD3 soft synths.  There are no errors in Cakewalk, nor in Windows Event Viewer.  Nothing happens.  Oddly enough, existing SD3 soft synths work just fine.  I’m also able to insert new soft synths for everything else.

Thoughts?

 

Thanks

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.0
Operating system: Windows 10

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[strascak]

I am having the same issue with Superior Drummer 3 after I installed EZ Drummer 3.  I have found if you do not update to the latest SD3 update, there is no VST3 version.  For me at least once Superior Drummer (latest update) or EZ Drummer 3 is installed, Cakewalk crashes. An error window opens for Session Drummer 3 pointing to a .dmp file location and file.

 

1. I have uninstalled all versions of EZ and Session Drummer, rebooted and then reinstalled all EZ and Session Drummer software.
2. Opening Cakewalk and adding EZ Drummer 3 or  Session Drummer 3 build 3.3.0 to a new (no tracks) session causes an immediate crash and Session Drummer3 build 3.3.0 error window with link to .dmp file.
3. This is reproducible every time
4.  I have included the lates Session Drummer3 3.3.0 .dmp files.

Note:

1. This seems to only affect EZ Drummer 3 or  Session Drummer 3 build 3.3.0 ( once the VST3 option is included)
2. Before the above versions are installed, the vst2 versions of both EZ Drummer 2 and  Session Drummer 3 can be added to projects without issue.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.0.3
Operating system: Windows 10

[watelessness]

i didn’t upgrade EZDrummer to version 3 because i don’t use it any more, and i have heard about compatibility issues.  I never got any of the crashes, just nothing happened” when i tried to insert a new SD3 instance.

What i DID stumble on was a little checkbox that seems to have solved my problem:

in CW:

1.  edit> preferences > file > VST settings
2.  under “VST3 Migration”, uncheck “hide related vst2 plug-ins”

Now i’m able to insert new soft synths.  weird.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.0
Operating system: Windows 10

[strascak]

Before you unchecked “hide related vst2 plug-ins”,  was Session Drummer 3 listed in the plugin list before you checked “hide related vst2 plug-ins”?  It should have still shown up.  The “hide related vst2 plug-ins” is to hide a VST2 plugin version when both a VST2 and VST3 version of a plugin are installed.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.0.2
Operating system: Windows 10

[watelessness]

yes, SD3 was listed.  It was working fine until i upgraded.  Projects that already had SD3 soft synths continued to work but i just couldn’t add new ones until i unchecked the box.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.0
Operating system: Windows 10

[strascak]

There seems to be an issue with having VST3 versions of both EZ Drummer 3 and Superior Drummer 3 both installed, in Cakewalk.  EZ Drummer 3 just released an update that fixed this issue for EZ Drummer and Cakewalk.

Before this update, I would get a Toontrack crash report if I tried to add either EZ Drummer 3 or Session Drummer 3 in a virgin project in Cakewalk.  As you describe some but not all of my files, with SD3, would open while others would fail.  The files with VST 3 would give a Toontrack crash report.

After adding this EZ Drummer 3 update (3.0.1 I think),  even though the issue is fixed in EZ Drummer,  Session Drummer 3 still gives a Toontrack crash report as before, when adding the VST 3 version of Session Drummer 3. This only happens with the VST 3 version.  The VST 2 version of Session  Drummer 3 works fine.  The problem is if a previous project used the VST 3 of Session Drummer 3, Session Drummer 3 (VST3) is listed as missing.

After installing Session Drummer 3   (3.3.0) and EZ Drummer 3 ( 3.0.1)

1. Open a blank project in Cakewalk.
2. Select the Session Drummer 3 VST3 version from the plugin browser.
3. As Session Drummer 3 VST version attempts to install, a Toontrack crash error is display and a .dmp file is created.
4. If Session Drummer 3 VST2 is selected (after step 2), Session Drummer will install correctly.

Expected results:

1. Session Drummer VST2 and VST3 would both install correctly, with EZ Drummer 3 (3.0.1) installed.

Actual Results:  With Session Drummer 3 (3.3.0) installed:

1. After installing EZ Drummer 3 (3.0.1),  Session Drummer 3 (3.3.0) VST3 Crashes with .dmp file.

Note:

1. With After installing EZ Drummer 3 (3.0.1) and Session Drummer 3 (3.3.0) would give a crash report and .dmp file.
2. When EZ Drummer 3 (3.0.1) , is installed, EZ Drummer 3 .0.1 opens fine but Session Drummer 3 (3.3.0) still give a crash report and .dmp file.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.0
Operating system: Windows 10

• This post was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by strascak.

[Billy 86]

I’m in the same boat with SD3 in Cakewalk. TT has listed it as a known issue in the release notes section of the site. I’m waiting for the fix.

SD3 3.4, EZK2.1.3, EZ Bass 1.3.1, Win11, i9/9900, all SSDs, 64g RAM, Cakewalk, Studio One

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[strascak]

The only work around is:

 

1. to uninstall all EZ Drummers (I have 2 and 3) and uninstall Superior Drummer 3.  Note:  You DO NOT have to uninstall ANY of your samples.
2. Then you can reinstall any EZ Drummers, except EZ Drummer 3.
3. Next install Superior Drummer up to the last version, which adds the x64 VST3 plugin.
4. As long as you don’t install EZ Drummer 3,  you will have EZ Drummer 2 VST2 and Superior Drummer 3 VST 2 and x64 VST3 to work with.

 

 

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.0
Operating system: Windows 10

[strascak]

Congrats to Toontrack for fixing this “inserting SD3 with EZ Drummer 3” issue in record time!

Both SD3 and EZ Drummer 3 inserting and working as expected, in Cakewalk.

Thanks

Operating system: Windows 10

[Billy 86]

strascak wrote:

Congrats to Toontrack for fixing this “inserting SD3 with EZ Drummer 3” issue in record time!

Both SD3 and EZ Drummer 3 inserting and working as expected, in Cakewalk.

Thanks

Operating system: Windows 10

To confirm, the SD3 update fixed the issue in CW? Thanks.

SD3 3.4, EZK2.1.3, EZ Bass 1.3.1, Win11, i9/9900, all SSDs, 64g RAM, Cakewalk, Studio One

[strascak]

Yes, the latest updates of EZ Drummer3 and Superior Drummer3 fix the Cakewalk “inserting\instantiating” problem.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.1
Operating system: Windows 10

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