Crash not working when played, but works in software?

[todez_1]

Hi,

This is a strange problem.  When pressing the crash cymbals while in SD3 or placing the MIDI notes in Studio One, they are heard.  Most are heard on playback, but only 1 is not and it sounds as if it is muted (even though it is not a muted instance).  I have deleted them and replaced them.  Same thing.  I have gone up and grabbed the cymbals higher on the keyboard.  Same thing.  Velocity is good.  And it is ONLY that ONE crash position.  What might I be missing to make it work properly?

 

Thank you,

 

George

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.0.2
Operating system: macOS Big Sur (11)

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[John]

Hi,

first I would like to ask you to update to the latest version (currently 3.2.4), then it would help if you could provide some audible example, like an mp3 file or link to a screen recording that describes what you are experiencing.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[todez_1]

Hello Mr. Rammelt,

Thank you for your reply.  I will check to see if I have the latest version, and update if I don’t.  If the problem continues, I will try to make a recording.

Thank you!

George

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Thanked by: John

[Gregory Pencheff]

I had a similar issue where a full crash sounded like a muted crash in the mix.  After a lot of head scratching I tracked down the cause.  The OH mic channel was routed to a compressor bus along with a number of other instruments.  The compressor would bring the crash out quite loud initally, but as soon as another instrument (toms in my case) were struck they would override the crash tail in the compression channel effectively cutting off the tail and causing the crash to sound like it was muted.

 

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.4
Operating system: Windows 10

[todez_1]

Hello GVP,

I’m at the very beginning of just creating the midi tracks and I don’t have any processing on the tracks at this time, so I don’t think that I am having the same problem.  But thank you for letting me know!  It’s just strange that all the others are fine, but this one hit isn’t.  My Toontrack Manager tells me all of my software is up-to-date, so I’ll have to try and record what is happening as suggested by Mr. Rammelt.

[Brad]

todez_1 wrote:

Hello GVP,

I’m at the very beginning of just creating the midi tracks and I don’t have any processing on the tracks at this time, so I don’t think that I am having the same problem.  But thank you for letting me know!  It’s just strange that all the others are fine, but this one hit isn’t.  My Toontrack Manager tells me all of my software is up-to-date, so I’ll have to try and record what is happening as suggested by Mr. Rammelt.

As well it would you be able to save and post the SD3 project in a zip file, in SD3 File > Save As.

Alternatively you could compress and post the .song file from Studio One. (With no other audio of course)

 

 

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.4
Operating system: macOS Big Sur (11)

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

[todez_1]

I was able to find the problem!

It seems that the the after-touch was changed somehow for that particular note, though I was doing nothing with after-touch in the entire.  I noticed a “line” in the background of the track that didn’t look right, and I was able to determine that was the problem.

Thank y0u for all of your help and all of your suggestions.  I appreciated them!

[Mark King]

If you triggered from a keyboard then most will send aftertouch if you press the key down. Worth cleaning up if you don’t use it,

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[todez_1]

Hello Mark,

I had not used a keyboard.  I was inputting MIDI via Studio One edit window.  But thank you for the information you sent.  I’ll keep it in mind.

George

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