Renier LemmensHow do i have them play in sync outside the DAW?
ShootieYou don’t. A DAW in mandatory.
Garagband is free on Mac. Consider checking it out.
Here is how you load it in Garageband.
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Stephan KatmarianYes, It would be awesome to have a software tool that allows Toontrack products to sync without a DAW.
I often write using Superior 3, EZ bass, and keys. It would be wonderful to be able to turn on those three programs and have them sync to each other outside of a DAW.
Its much easier than loading them all up to a Daw, and then working from product to product within the DAW (less windows, etc.)
Bear-Faced CowThat’s basically what a DAW is for.
It couldn’t be any easier than creating a template that loads up all of the plug-ins you need at once and is far less cumbersome that calling up all three instruments. Not to mention more efficient since the DAW is doing all of the real management. Concerning that these are instruments, there’s far more gain to using a DAW than standalone in this case.
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SteveeeFor the purpose of writing within the toontrack environment, it would be much easier to not have to boot up and sync to the daw, rather than just moving directly from toontrack instrument to instrument. There are less steps and management involved, less windows, less drain on the system, work flow is more focussed, etc. It would be easy to implement, and I’m sure very popular. cheers
Bear-Faced CowDisagree. DAWs are very efficient at these not only management when it comes to songwriting, but also arranging and mixing. Management can be done through templating so that everything is right there when you need it and when it comes down to mixing everything, all of your instruments are in place ready to apply further processing.
You are still moving around from instrument to instrument anyways, so what savings are you referring to? You’re going to wind up using a DAW to add other parts as well as bouncing it all together. If you are finding things either inconvenient or cumbersome, then you are probably not making efficient use of your DAW or you are using the wrong DAW altogether.
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A EA DAW can be unnecessary for certain applications. I was shocked by the response you gave: “You don’t. A DAW in mandatory.” And it got two likes! I really hope this attitude doesn’t reflect the broader Toontrack community. Their apps come across as inclusive, helpful, and focused on convenience.
A DAW often consumes significant CPU resources and adds unnecessary complexity when all you need is a simple connector. It’s like using a chainsaw to slice a tomato—complete overkill. Plus, Toontrack’s EZ products already include built-in sequencers, so you can easily use them without relying on a DAW.
This doesn’t even need a separate app; when two Toontrack applications are open, a sync button could appear on the song timeline, making integration effortless. Simple, elegant, and efficient.
ShootieA DAW is mandatory. Great advice for some looking for the fastest and most accurate answer to the question. Liked by two other guys who endlessly support Toontrack users at their own expense plus Jord coming in to try help people see the light before they waste too much time playing around. I’m speaking for myself, but this is a great community.
If a DAW’s footprint is bringing your computer down, you’re probably having a hard time with using EZDrummer 3 in standalone.
The market should pressure Toontrack into making “EZDAW”. I’d love to see it. Until then, DAW is king. It’s not an opinion according to the topic.
To any other onlookers. If you’re using Toontrack products in standalone mode and you’re not an edrummer/keyboardist performing live, you are wasting an endless amount of time (besides simple tasks) with workarounds than it takes to learn the basics of a DAW. A DAW is free on MAC, and one of the most reputable DAW’s on PC called Reaper is only $60… never mind free limited DAWs from companies such as Pro Tools and so on to get you started without an investment up front.
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Plus, Toontrack’s EZ products already include built-in sequencers, so you can easily use them without relying on a DAW.
Using them standalone doesn’t make a DAW any less of a requirement for using multiple instruments together. Despite having a pattern sequencer, they are still instruments and running them in standalone doesn’t change this in any way.
when two Toontrack applications are open, a sync button could appear on the song timeline, making integration effortless. Simple, elegant, and efficient.
That’s a gross oversimplification. There’s far more to sync’ing MIDI apps and adding this type of thing in would create a far more complex and possibly complicated operation as you could be running into potential bandwidth, syncing and latency issues. This is all handled within a DAW very orderly and rather elegantly. Besides if you think loading and setting up three apps as opposed to a single DAW project that loads all three as well as multiple instances of various instruments (eg drums and percussion) is more complex, I question your workflow.
A DAW often consumes significant CPU resources
Wrong. DAWs are rather light. Plug-in usage can consume CPU resources, depending on the plug-in. I sometimes consume a 20GB instance of Superior Drummer.
adds unnecessary complexity
Wrong again. The basic metaphor of every DAW is that of a multi-track tape recorder. If that still sounds difficult, a little RTFM doesn’t hurt.
I was shocked
You’ll get over it. And in case you didn’t know it, Shootie is a walking reference of using ToonTrack products in the sea of information. If you haven ‘t visited his YouTube channel, I highly recommend doing so.
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