Stick_dWhat is the ideal setup to connect and use the EZ drummer for a gig. What is the best way to get a best output as like I hear in headphones. Below are my setup
I use , EZ Drummer 3 , Mac pro M1 connected via USB to VAD 706 kit with TD50X Module. Typically I use the audio out jack from MAC or module headphones output connected with a XLR out cable route it to the PA . I have Roland PM200 Speaker. I am not happy with the sound , it is muffled and not punchy enough as I hear in headphones. I also have SD3, But never tried it for PA. Any detailed setup or videos would help.
Thanks
Dilip
ShootieJust some thoughts.
Imagine the high fidelity/details you hear with a speaker inside or over your ear. Also acknowledge there’s no room sound in headphones. Headphones eliminate the sound of the room your speakers are in.
I’d say having access to an EQ will help you get the headphone tone you like if you have decent speakers. Two powered JBLs work just fine for me edrumming on my own in a small room. If these speakers are close to me, I hear less of the room I’m playing in and it will sound tighter.
A quality powerful speaker(s) would be needed in a bigger venue. You have to compete with the ambience of the room for a “tight” sound.
If you’re playing venues, I would just bring an audio interface with TRS or XLR outputs and feed the sound engineer the left and right lines (however many you can provide). Let them deal with it.
All headphones sound different and so do all speakers. Depending on your standards you need a basic or an elaborate EQ to compensate and a quality enough speaker to output what you want.
Last thought. Two powered 15″ JBL Eons in a church with 70 foot ceiling sound awful during sound check when I’m 80 feet away from them mixing. Come show time with 100 people standing in front of them, they sound great. It’s all about dealing with the room and situation.
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Mark4866“Typically I use the audio out jack from MAC or module headphones output connected with a XLR out cable route it to the PA”
Is this cable a ‘standard’ TRS (tip-ring-sleeve) to XLR? If so, you may be attempting to connect a stereo unbalanced output to a mono balanced input which may cause some issues such as phase cancellation of the stereo signal and it definitely could sound bad.
You could try a cable that’s wired in a way to connect a stereo signal to an XLR input. The link below is for a HOSA XVM105M (Amazon has this). It is wired such that the left and right stereo signals are combined to mono and wired at the XLR so as to be unbalanced. The link has a small wiring diagram at the lower left showing the wiring. I have couple of these cables I use for video audio.
I hope I’m not misunderstanding your connections, but this what I think may be the problem.
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Thanked by: Stick_dStick_dThanks much for a detailed response. I also have a Mackie SRM-Flex Powered Column Array speaker which I purchased very recently , May be I’ll try with that. Would that make any difference?
Question on the audio interface, I do have a focusrite audio interface , Do you mean to say that I should connect from Mac headphone out to Audio interface and from there to PA or FoH? My question with the setup where I would like to use EZ Drummer out to PA OR should I connect directly from module to Audio interface and then to PA or FoH.
Thanks Again
Dilip
Stick_dThanks for the details response. Yes I use 3.5 mm to XLR cable to connect from Mac audio out to the speakers
ShootieI don’t know the TD50 well. I feel like users are able to use a Roland Audio driver and send EZD back to the unit, then you can use the module’s output.
Your headphone jack can work fine. It’s just not optimized for the situation.
My preference is always Drum Module to computer via USB/Midi cable. Audio Interface to computer via USB. Audio Interface to Mixing Board or Powered Speakers via balanced cables (whether 1/4″ TRS or XLR). If I’m playing a venue I have a stereo DI box on me incase their engineer doesn’t know what to do with my Audio Interface.
My take on the audio interface.
About speakers. A nicer speaker will probably always sound better is the easy answer. A picky answer for when you’re ready. All pro live engineers “tune” (EQ) speakers to a certain room if they have time. This is an EQ only for the speakers, not for the instruments or EZDrummer. Or the process is called Ringing Out The Room. If your setup is always in the same room or you’re going to play an important gig with your own sound system, maybe check out the process.
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