Can I send audio IN to SD3 to use its internal FX without the drums?

[holyspicoli]

Hi – I have a kit I’ve made within SD3 using it’s internal mixer and FX that uses a healthy dose of the Valve Distortion box on the master output – it’s a core part of the overall sound. Come mix-time, I’d like to be able to fan out the individual busses of the kit (kick, snare, toms, etc) to separate outs in SD3 and send to individual DAW tracks for more control. However, of course in doing that I would lose the ability to use the Valve Distortion box on the overall kit bus since I’d now be sending the drums to separate outputs. SO my question is – is there a way to route audio IN to an SD3 instance to simply use it as an FX plugin? Can’t seem to figure out if it’s possible fro the manual and searches. Thanks! I’m using Pro Tools btw.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)

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[Mark King]

I don’t think so.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[drumjack52]

holyspicoli wrote:

Hi – I have a kit I’ve made within SD3 using it’s internal mixer and FX that uses a healthy dose of the Valve Distortion box on the master output – it’s a core part of the overall sound. Come mix-time, I’d like to be able to fan out the individual busses of the kit (kick, snare, toms, etc) to separate outs in SD3 and send to individual DAW tracks for more control. However, of course in doing that I would lose the ability to use the Valve Distortion box on the overall kit bus since I’d now be sending the drums to separate outputs. SO my question is – is there a way to route audio IN to an SD3 instance to simply use it as an FX plugin? Can’t seem to figure out if it’s possible fro the manual and searches. Thanks! I’m using Pro Tools btw.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)

Let me understand this – instead of doing the summing in SD3 you’re doing it in PT right? IOW using multi-channel in SD3 instead of stereo? You do know that the Valve Distortion box plugin is available in each kit piece channel right? Out it on each channel before it goes to PT audio tracks. Personally I’m not all that nuts about the plugins in SD3 and rather use what I have in PT (and those aren’t the stock Avid plugins but third party ones).

But to answer your question you can’t use SD3 as an effects plugin in a daw.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
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[Bear-Faced Cow]

While it is true, you can use the valve distortion on individual channels, the overall effect is different than using it on the output, bus channel. Using it on the individual channels would create a cumulative effect, no different to how I would use the UAD Studer A800 tape plug-in. Using the valve distortion on the output, channel is more of a glueing effect, no different than the way I would use the UAD Ampex ATR – 102 plug-in on my DAW output channel.

That being said, as stated, above, you cannot use SD3 to input sounds into the effects. However, there are numerous types of saturation type, plug-ins available, both third-party, and probably within your DAW. The effect would be very comparable, if not better. While the aforementioned Studer is one of my favourites to use on the drums, my other favourite on the drum output is the UAD – 175B plug-in.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

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[holyspicoli]

Got it, yes, thanks for the tips. It seems like it can’t be done from the responses. And yeah, putting the processor on each individual tracks has a different effect than putting on the bus so that won’t work. I have plenty of saturators/tape plugs etc. they’re all great but the valve box on a few settings has a very specific sound that I can’t replicate outside SD3. It looks like it’s modeled after a special version of the Thermionic Culture Vulture tube rack unit – so I guess i’d have to drop a few grand on one of those!

[drumjack52]

holyspicoli wrote:

Got it, yes, thanks for the tips. It seems like it can’t be done from the responses. And yeah, putting the processor on each individual tracks has a different effect than putting on the bus so that won’t work. I have plenty of saturators/tape plugs etc. they’re all great but the valve box on a few settings has a very specific sound that I can’t replicate outside SD3. It looks like it’s modeled after a special version of the Thermionic Culture Vulture tube rack unit – so I guess i’d have to drop a few grand on one of those!

Actua;;u no on spending mega bucks on the hardware. Soundtoys has one called Decapitator

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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